December 2008: The King's Daughter by Sandra Worth

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Wed February 18th, 2009, 1:29 am

[quote=""Tanzanite""]I have less than 100 pages of this to go and I have a question. In two instances Elizabeth mentions that she is descended from John of Gaunt and Katherine (once is when she is talking about the need to get a dispensation from the Pope for her marriage to Henry Tudor). I know that Henry VII was descended from the Beauforts, but how is Elizabeth of York descended from them?[/quote]

Henry VII and Elizabeth of York were third cousins.

John of Gaunt m. Katherine Swyford -> Joan Beaufort m. Ralph de Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland -> Cecily Neville m. Richard, 3rd Duke of York -> Edward IV m. Elizabeth Woodville -> Elizabeth of York m. Henry VII

John of Gaunt m. Katherine Swyford -> John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset m. Margaret Holland -> John Beaufort, 1st Duke of Somerset, 3rd Earl of Somerset m. Margaret Beauchamp of Bletso -> Lady Margaret Beaufort m. Edmund Tudor, 1st Earl of Richmond -> Henry VII m. Elizabeth of York

Tanzanite · Post by **Tanzanite** » Wed February 18th, 2009, 2:51 am

Thanks. I figured it had to be something like that. The family tree in the book doesn't include Cecily or her ancestors. I knew someone here would know off the top of their head!

Tanzanite · Post by **Tanzanite** » Sat February 21st, 2009, 11:05 pm

I finished this a few days ago. For the most part I thought it was well researched (based on what I know), pretty well written (a little flowery at times) and an entertaining story. The word "woe" about did me in though in the beginning - thank goodness it stopped after a few pages and like others, I wish most of the characters had a little more depth and variation to them.

Although Elizabeth Woodville and Margaret Beaufort are pure evil, I have to admit to enjoying the cat fights between them. I also thought the arguments between the Elizabeths (mother and daughter), and the emotional scenes involving Richard III were well written.

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Thu October 22nd, 2009, 1:21 am

I grabbed this book last week to take to jury duty. I wanted something light. I'm just about to go finish it, but I wanted to say I agree with much of the opinions expressed here. The characters are either too good or too evil. The depiction of Elizabeth Woodville participating in some sort of black magic ceremony made Philippa Gregory's depiction seem mild by comparison. Last night I did catch an error that bothered me. Maundy Thursday was mentioned as the day after Ash Wednesday. Of course, it is another term for Holy Thursday, the day the Last Supper occurred.