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Rant about new Amazon reviewer ranking system

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Rant about new Amazon reviewer ranking system

Post by LCW » Fri October 24th, 2008, 5:56 pm

Amazon just issued a brand new system for reviewer rankings and honestly I'm a little PO'd by it. Yes, I moved way up in the rankings but Amazon erased almost 100 positive votes and kept all my negative votes. I was at 92% favorable rating and now I dropped to 86%.

They're saying the deleted the "fan votes" or votes by a person who votes multiple times for one person's reviews. Apparently I have 7 such voters. I know two of them are friends of mine who are avid readers like I am so the other five must be my Amazon friends or someone who follows my reviews closely. I'm a "fan voter" for several people on Amazon whose reviews I enjoy and they help me choose books to read. How is that a bad thing and why would Amazon punish their reviewers for this? I can see if someone gets 5000 votes from one person but a few positive votes from people who follow and enjoy my reviews shouldn't be punished by Amazon. This really is irritating me!! :mad:
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Post by Divia » Fri October 24th, 2008, 8:19 pm

I thought fan vote means that if someone votes more than once then it doesnt count anymore. But a person can vote for anyone they like if they write a new review and it wont hurt them. So I could have misfit vote on all my new reviews and thats fine.

Or did I not understand correctly?
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Post by Misfit » Fri October 24th, 2008, 8:23 pm

I know what you're feeling, but I've been watching the Amazon shenanigans in the higher ranking for a couple of years and I think this is a great step in stopping some of that. LOL, whatever they did Harriet is now #400 something. How good is that? Several other highly ranked reviewers have taken quite a tumble, among them DebMac (who with her "ladies in waiting" clicked helpful and not helpful all over the place - and I did look at couple of profiles that I knew were "buds" of DM and they've taken a dive as well). I looked at profiles of some who I know were very active in gaining Amzn friends and voting each other up (some of those gushing comments they gave each other !!!) and there's been some big drops there.

And biggest of all is the former #6 who no matter how obscure the item he reviewed it always garnered 200-300 positive votes within days. They're calculating on the DB's he lost over 100,000 helpful votes and he's dropped in ranking to 20 something and has 55,000 "fan voters".

I do find it interesting that most everyone who is an up and up caring reviewer on Amazon has seen great gains, while those long suspected of monkey business of some sorts have taken a dive in ranking. So there is some good in it -- especially from our own Telynor who barely broke 1,000 a few months ago is now knocking at the top 100!!! :) :) :) Woohoo! (I need diamondlil to come in here now with some fireworks or something)

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Post by Misfit » Fri October 24th, 2008, 8:25 pm

Divia, I'll always vote for those I find helpful. I just don't care for those who come in with the I'll vote for you if you vote for me attitude. I inherited at least one of them, and it was quite painful, especially as her reviews (while a clever concept and very tongue in cheek) were so poorly written that it was virtually impossible to say something nice. Yet she had a good 15-20 of the known gushers gushing all over how great her reviews were. That's what stopping the fan voting was for IMO.

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Post by diamondlil » Fri October 24th, 2008, 10:28 pm

[quote=""Misfit""]I know what you're feeling, but I've been watching the Amazon shenanigans in the higher ranking for a couple of years and I think this is a great step in stopping some of that. LOL, whatever they did Harriet is now #400 something. How good is that? Several other highly ranked reviewers have taken quite a tumble, among them DebMac (who with her "ladies in waiting" clicked helpful and not helpful all over the place - and I did look at couple of profiles that I knew were "buds" of DM and they've taken a dive as well). I looked at profiles of some who I know were very active in gaining Amzn friends and voting each other up (some of those gushing comments they gave each other !!!) and there's been some big drops there.

And biggest of all is the former #6 who no matter how obscure the item he reviewed it always garnered 200-300 positive votes within days. They're calculating on the DB's he lost over 100,000 helpful votes and he's dropped in ranking to 20 something and has 55,000 "fan voters".

I do find it interesting that most everyone who is an up and up caring reviewer on Amazon has seen great gains, while those long suspected of monkey business of some sorts have taken a dive in ranking. So there is some good in it -- especially from our own Telynor who barely broke 1,000 a few months ago is now knocking at the top 100!!! :) :) :) Woohoo! (I need diamondlil to come in here now with some fireworks or something)[/quote]

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Post by michellemoran » Fri October 24th, 2008, 10:59 pm

Oh my gosh - this is so complicated!!!!!! I had no idea...

But congrats on your higher rankings everyone!
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Post by cw gortner » Fri October 24th, 2008, 11:18 pm

Gosh, I've never checked my reviewer ranking. I post reviews on my own and often post my Historical Novels Review reviews once they're officially published in the magazine. Guess I should check to see if I've gotten a bump.

I did get invited to be a Vine reviewer out of the blue last month. It was very unexpected; the invitation said something like: " . . . since you're one of our most trusted reviewers." I was like, what? Compared to Harriet K., who must do nothing but read, I'm very low on that particular totem pole.
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Post by cw gortner » Fri October 24th, 2008, 11:39 pm

I checked. My reviewer ranking is

New Reviewer Rank: 13,307
Classic Reviewer Rank: 19,169
Total Helpful Votes: 361 of 402
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Post by Misfit » Sat October 25th, 2008, 12:10 am

Compared to Harriet K., who must do nothing but read
Oh I'm so tempted to go there but I'll behave myself :p :D

Thanks for the fireworks DL. Telynor's going to have to tell us how many free book offers she get now she's so highly ranked :)

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Post by boswellbaxter » Sat October 25th, 2008, 1:27 am

[quote=""cw gortner""]I checked. My reviewer ranking is

New Reviewer Rank: 13,307
Classic Reviewer Rank: 19,169
Total Helpful Votes: 361 of 402[/quote]

I moved up quite a bit:

New Reviewer Rank: 6,507 - Total Helpful Votes: 215 of 232
Classic Reviewer Rank: 23,880
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