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How do you feel about authors promoting their books on message boards?

Post by Misfit » Mon October 20th, 2008, 12:48 am

And no I'm not talking about this board and anyone here. I frequent the Amazon historical, historical romance and romance boards and I'm getting sick and tired of unknown/self published authors jumping in to every thread and hawking their book. Recent example is a thread on Amazon asking for new rec's on historical fiction/romance. If you read back through the thread I recall there are several authors jumping in. Here's the latest,
Dave Garr says:
Utopia Begins is an historical fictional novel about how life would proceed after a catastrophic volcanic eruption that created toxic air throughout the country, subsequently killing everyone-everyone, that is, except for the few who predicted this catastrophe years prior. It is a story of intrigue, mystery, and ultimately, love.

It begins with a stranger who comes to town and ruffles the feathers of the residents. He is extremely rich and buys several miles of land to build his dream. It is more than just a passion of his, it is a reoccurring dream that he has had for several years. In this dream, he saw destruction, as well as a new life that starts in an underground, self-contained city. It became his sole purpose in life to find the perfect spot, and then build such a city-a utopia. He courts and falls in love with a beautiful waitress in town, only to step on the feet of her childhood friend who had plans to marry her. This story tells of her growing passion and commitment to this new resident, his plans, the subsequent demise and self-destruction of her old friend, and this new life underground.
Another one,
Richard Wyatt says:
Fathers of Myth
by Richard Wyatt....
Hard to put this novel in a single genre slot.
A Mystery/Adventure SciFi/Thriller/Romance.

This story lives in the same neighborhod as The X Files... Indiana Jones..

Story description:
Matthew Brooks, a young rookie journalist working for the Portland Herald, along with his beautiful photographer partner Kelly O Hara, run head on into the mystery of their lives. As they pry open this mystery, that has been purposely kept a secret for thousands of years, they discover that knowing the truth about the past, could very well cost them their lives;

the disappearance of the dinosaurs and the ancient story of a global flood, to the real identity of Jack the Ripper and the disappearance of Amelia Earhart, to the kidnap of Charles Lindbergh s son and the assassin of John F Kennedy, to the Hindenburg and the Space Shuttle Challenger explosion disasters, all possess one common thread of truth.

Come along with me! Unearth the hidden secret about our past. Learn the real truth behind the history of mankind, and the truth about the Fathers of Myth.

So enjoy.

The book:

Fathers of Myth... by Richard Wyatt
Kindle and Paperback
I really don't mind it when authors jump in on a forum and if their book suits what the thread is about and respectfully mentioning it -- really that's OK. But when they start spamming every thread out there it's starting to get just a little bit old, like the time when an author of a series of books about brothers involved in an incestuous relationship (porn folks) started a thread on the romance board suggesting her books for romance readers. I'd post the link but believe it or not that's the first time I've seen Amazon remove an entire thread -- instead of just the offensive comments.

Maybe it's just me but I don't see how authors are helping themselves this way. Thoughts?

PS, I've vented now hopefully I'll feel better :) :o :p ;)
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Post by Margaret » Mon October 20th, 2008, 1:13 am

I do not think authors help themselves in this way. What they are doing is advertising in flaming letters that they are rookies whose books are undoubtedly as badly written as their promotional posts. Both of the examples you quote, Misfit, are just embarrassing. The writing is so bad and full of punctuation, grammar and spelling errors, and the multitudes of adjectives (ironically) describing how mesmerizingly brilliant the novel is should be saved for the authors' websites, jacket copy, etc.

I do think it's great when the authors who are members here mention in a post that their next novel, titled XXX, is being published by XXX publishing house and will be available on XXX date, plus maybe a short sentence or two about the subject matter. This is information I want to know!
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Post by Divia » Mon October 20th, 2008, 3:15 am

If I'm looking for a novel about the Victorian Era and someone has written a book about it then yes I would like to know about said book. However if I am looking for a book on the Victorian Era and someone says "I have just written about a book set in world war II but the narrator is a strong female." then I really dont want to hear about it.

Thats happened to me more times than I care to count. I ask for a certain type of book and people throw everything but the kitchen sink at me. Its like nooo thats not whatI asked for.

I've also seen people post in the HF forum on Amazon who havent written HF but want to get noticed. :rolleyes:

And I agree with Margaret. I dont think it helps authors at all. They look like they are spammers. Its annoying. There are proper places to promote your book, but randomly doing it on any MB is tiresome.

Oh, and I like to know about the authors here to get published or what their next upcoming book is. I look at it this way. They take their time to reach out to the historical fiction community, I think we can take a moment to give them their time to shine. :) Plus, its always good to support the locals.
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Post by Ash » Mon October 20th, 2008, 3:16 am

I'm not thrilled, but I understand why they do it - its free advertising and worth it to at least attempt to get their name out. But I am not a monster about it - one forum that I am on used to really take them to task online, and I thought that was way over board. A simple 'thank you' after their post is sufficient (which is how the Amazon HF forum handles it)

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Post by Misfit » Mon October 20th, 2008, 2:03 pm

Oh, and I like to know about the authors here to get published or what their next upcoming book is. I look at it this way. They take their time to reach out to the historical fiction community, I think we can take a moment to give them their time to shine. Plus, its always good to support the locals.
I think we're very lucky here with the authors we have. They bring quite a lot to this board, don't they?

You should see it anytime an author tries to pump their books at the Amazon Discussion Boards. It's a shark fest then let me tell you.

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Post by Spitfire » Mon October 20th, 2008, 5:03 pm

[QUOTE=Misfit;8884]I think we're very lucky here with the authors we have. They bring quite a lot to this board, don't they?QUOTE]
I agree, I really value all the remarks made by our own board's authors. They bring alot of experience, research and valuable opinons to all our threads. For the authors only coming on to promote their book and then never posting again....their loss, not ours!
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Post by Divia » Mon October 20th, 2008, 9:22 pm

I agree with both of you! I've learned a lot from the authors who post here, because as a future hopeful they tell ya some ins and outs of what it takes. That is priceless information to me.

Plus somethings are just cool to learn about how EC2's book sales jumped when they changed to the headless women covers :)
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Post by Margaret » Mon October 20th, 2008, 9:39 pm

how EC2's book sales jumped when they changed to the headless women covers
That is cool to know. Maybe it makes it easy for readers to imagine their own heads up there?
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Post by Divia » Mon October 20th, 2008, 11:10 pm

Yeah I'm sure thats part of it. And to an extent I agree. Somtimes I like to think about who the characters are in my mind. WhenI see a pic of them I'm like oh, thats not what I was thinking.
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Post by michellemoran » Tue October 21st, 2008, 1:30 am

Maybe it's just me but I don't see how authors are helping themselves this way. Thoughts?
Authors aren't doing themselves any favors at all by doing that. I have a guest post on Nathan Bransford's blog tomorrow and Wednesday, and the Wednesday section talks about how authors damage their own careers by doing things like that - or worse, getting into online fights over bad reviews. But what really takes the cake is when authors have friends bash online reviewers - or they do it "anonymously" themselves, which is not only obvious, but in poor taste (I do have one particular author in mind who was exposed at Dear Author, but I'm sure there have been more). There's no quicker way, imo, not to be trusted by readers. Makes you wonder what some authors are thinking...
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