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Post by EC2 » Tue July 23rd, 2013, 3:56 pm

[quote=""Mythica""]I think I read on a blog somewhere that this cover was spot on:

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In fact, could the woman in the background be the same model as the one on The Captive Queen? It looks like the same dress! One for the Deja vu book covers?[/quote]

The dress at the forefront is out by several hundred years - think 15th century, not 12th. The hairdo is wrong too. I've seen that forefront dress numerous times on book covers. The dress at the back is more in keeping but still slightly dodgy with those different coloured sleeves.

On the Captive Queen, the slipover gold shrug ows more to Phase Eight than it does to the 12th Century!
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Are always to be found between the hooves of horses
For never will cowards fall down there.'

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Post by Misfit » Tue July 23rd, 2013, 4:49 pm

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Post by MLE (Emily Cotton) » Tue July 23rd, 2013, 7:22 pm

[quote=""EC2""]My sales quadrupled when my models went half-head, and that's a solid fact. The Other Boleyn Girl was a massive bestseller and the start of that half-head cover. I had a reader write to me and say that she far prefferred headless. When people had faces she had to put a sticker over them so that she could imagine the person in her mind's eye. So I'd say it's complicated. :) [/quote]
I guess that's a market test of sorts. But one further question: were there other factors in play at the time? such as new publisher, different advertising, being selected by a bookclub, or maybe one of your books liek The Greatest Knight serving as a springboard to market other books that had fallen below the radar?

I appreciate your sharing this kind of info, EC, because it's really hard to come by and decisions have to be made. :o

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Post by Lisa » Tue July 23rd, 2013, 7:53 pm

[quote=""EC2""]That far right of The Captive Queen is historically inaccurate for the period though.[/quote]

Oh dear, I'm quite certain that outfit was described exactly so in the novel during a key scene (as I was reading I realised the description matched the cover). Hardly the most disastrous thing about that book though :P

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Post by Misfit » Tue July 23rd, 2013, 8:12 pm

[quote=""LadyB""]Oh dear, I'm quite certain that outfit was described exactly so in the novel during a key scene (as I was reading I realised the description matched the cover). Hardly the most disastrous thing about that book though :P [/quote]

Yeah, there were a lot more disastrous things in the book than a dress :( :o
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Post by princess garnet » Wed July 24th, 2013, 12:36 am

I remember when Jean Plaidy's novels were reissued, they had a period portrait of the person whom the novel was about on the cover. The later ones, no.

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Post by Nefret » Wed July 24th, 2013, 2:20 am

[quote=""princess garnet""]I remember when Jean Plaidy's novels were reissued, they had a period portrait of the person whom the novel was about on the cover. The later ones, no.[/quote]


I have some of both on my bookshelf. The portrait ones are look so much better.
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We have an urge to kill and our lust for blood has to be fulfilled
WE´LL FIGHT TILL THE END! And send our enemies straight to Hell!
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Post by Mythica » Wed July 24th, 2013, 9:18 am

[quote=""EC2""]The dress at the forefront is out by several hundred years - think 15th century, not 12th. The hairdo is wrong too. I've seen that forefront dress numerous times on book covers. The dress at the back is more in keeping but still slightly dodgy with those different coloured sleeves.

On the Captive Queen, the slipover gold shrug ows more to Phase Eight than it does to the 12th Century![/quote]

Hmm, maybe that wasn't the cover I was thinking of then, I think it might have been this one:

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You can see why I would confuse the two covers, I think it's the same dress, though one is worn with a belt. I only had a vague recollection of a blog talking about the accuracy of this green dress.

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Post by Lisa » Wed July 24th, 2013, 1:49 pm

It's blue on this cover! (And I assume inaccurate there too.) That dress does get around.
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Post by Misfit » Wed July 24th, 2013, 2:20 pm

[quote=""LadyB""]It's blue on this cover! (And I assume inaccurate there too.) That dress does get around.[/quote]

Oh, good catch. That dress gets around almost as much as this one (I know we've discussed the dress below somewhere on this board).

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