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Covers with the right person/ time period...

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Covers with the right person/ time period...

Post by Nefret » Mon July 22nd, 2013, 9:04 pm

Since using covers with people/ clothes from the wrong time period is so common, I wondered how many covers were actually period correct.



I know the authors don't get to pick, but we do have fun talking book covers.
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I did get to pick

Post by DanielAWillis » Tue July 23rd, 2013, 12:31 am

Because I started as self-published, I got lucky in this regard. I worked very closely with the cover artist of my novels and made sure costume was correct.

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Post by Lisa » Tue July 23rd, 2013, 8:18 am

Sometimes they do get it right, but it's because they've used an overused portrait, such as the one of Anne Boleyn that we see on covers so often.

But I've also seen some covers that have been shot specifically for the book in question, with a model wearing an outfit that has actually been described in the book - the only one I can think of right now is Captive Queen by Alison Weir, but I know I've seen others.
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Post by Misfit » Tue July 23rd, 2013, 1:13 pm

What a good idea for a thread. There a list at GR called Does this dress make me look anachronistic. I'll hunt down the link later.
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Post by Mythica » Tue July 23rd, 2013, 1:20 pm

I think I read on a blog somewhere that this cover was spot on:

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In fact, could the woman in the background be the same model as the one on The Captive Queen? It looks like the same dress! One for the Deja vu book covers?

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Post by MLE (Emily Cotton) » Tue July 23rd, 2013, 1:49 pm

Covers and the fact that an author has little/no say about them is one of the many reasons I'm not very interested in finding a traditional publisher. For HF, the solution is easy: find a period-correct portrait or artifact. And then pay a graphic artist who can photoshop really beautifully to arrange the elements, including artwork, title, and author's name, on the cover.

And if I may say it, even if someone up in the big six publishers' art department has declared that headless or back-turned women sell better than full-face covers, I doubt that has been market tested (as in, cover A with model's head gone versus same cover B showing head/face). I suspect that if it were put to a consumer test, it would be weighted towards seeing the face. From infancy, human brains are hard-wired to seek out things that approximate human features.

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Post by Lisa » Tue July 23rd, 2013, 2:28 pm

[quote=""MLE""]Covers and the fact that an author has little/no say about them is one of the many reasons I'm not very interested in finding a traditional publisher. For HF, the solution is easy: find a period-correct portrait or artifact. And then pay a graphic artist who can photoshop really beautifully to arrange the elements, including artwork, title, and author's name, on the cover.

And if I may say it, even if someone up in the big six publishers' art department has declared that headless or back-turned women sell better than full-face covers, I doubt that has been market tested (as in, cover A with model's head gone versus same cover B showing head/face). I suspect that if it were put to a consumer test, it would be weighted towards seeing the face. From infancy, human brains are hard-wired to seek out things that approximate human features.[/quote]

I certainly prefer to see the person's face on a cover, although I find it a little disconcerting when the model is staring right out at me, like in the two below. I'm not sure why, but I prefer covers like the Queen's Pawn above where they're looking elsewhere! (Although at least there's continuity in the two below.)
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Post by Madeleine » Tue July 23rd, 2013, 2:54 pm

I prefer the whole head too, but prefer it if they're slightly turned away - those two covers in the previous post are a bit full on (and too modern!).
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Post by EC2 » Tue July 23rd, 2013, 3:46 pm

[quote=""LadyB""]Sometimes they do get it right, but it's because they've used an overused portrait, such as the one of Anne Boleyn that we see on covers so often.

But I've also seen some covers that have been shot specifically for the book in question, with a model wearing an outfit that has actually been described in the book - the only one I can think of right now is Captive Queen by Alison Weir, but I know I've seen others.[/quote]

That far right of The Captive Queen is historically inaccurate for the period though.
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Post by EC2 » Tue July 23rd, 2013, 3:50 pm

My sales quadrupled when my models went half-head, and that's a solid fact. The Other Boleyn Girl was a massive bestseller and the start of that half-head cover. I had a reader write to me and say that she far prefferred headless. When people had faces she had to put a sticker over them so that she could imagine the person in her mind's eye. So I'd say it's complicated. :)
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