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King Richard III's grave may be under parking lot

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Post by DianeL » Sat January 12th, 2013, 5:48 pm

I've seen a couple articles stating that the conclusions have already been drawn ("it's a positive match!") but no formal announcements as yet ...
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Post by Lisa » Sat January 12th, 2013, 6:35 pm

Yeah, I read somewhere recently that they know it's him, but aren't announcing it until a tv show about it has been aired :|

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Post by annis » Sun January 13th, 2013, 2:36 am

I couldn't help thinking there were some longish odds in matching DNA with a descendant so far removed. Who would know if there had been a cuckoo or two somewhere in the nest over the generations to stuff up the pure bloodline?

Yes, I saw that about holding out until the associated TV programme is ready to air. Nothing like a bit of suspense to get the ratings up :)

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Post by DianeL » Sun January 13th, 2013, 10:15 pm

[quote=""annis""]I couldn't help thinking there were some longish odds in matching DNA with a descendant so far removed. Who would know if there had been a cuckoo or two somewhere in the nest over the generations to stuff up the pure bloodline?

Yes, I saw that about holding out until the associated TV programme is ready to air. Nothing like a bit of suspense to get the ratings up :) [/quote]

Still, unless one of those cuckoos just *happened* to be of Plantagenet blood, that should not then affect any apparent match *to* Richard Plantagenet generations later. If my family line are all Smiths, and a Jones comes along without anybody's knowing, and that unknown Jones' subsequent great-great grandson tests positive as a Smith, the Jones genetic presence can't actually negate the Smith positive.

Only if we're trying to prove Smith lineage on someone who *isn't* Smith - but secretly somewhere in their past a Smith paid great grandma a clandestine visit and contributed Smith genes into an otherwise non-Smith line does the cuckoo confuse the issue.
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Post by J.D. Oswald » Mon January 28th, 2013, 7:54 pm

Documentary about the investigation 'Richard III: The King in the Car Park' on Channel 4 on Monday 4th Feb:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/rich ... e-car-park

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Post by Nefret » Mon January 28th, 2013, 8:47 pm

Is that program only airing in the UK? It looks interesting.
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Post by J.D. Oswald » Tue January 29th, 2013, 7:44 am

Yes, I think it might only be on in the UK but it might be possible to watch it on the Channel 4 website.

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Post by traveldog » Wed January 30th, 2013, 1:42 pm

From the Facebook page of the Richard III Society 1/30/2013

RICHARD III SOCIETY
2 hours ago
LEICESTER UNIVERSITY’S PRESS CONFERENCE 10AM 4 FEBRUARY 2013

The press conference will reveal the results of the investigations into the human remains found on the site of the Greyfriars.

There will not be a live stream on the university’s website, however the press conference will be recorded and put up on the site as soon as possible after its conclusion. Leicester University website: http://www.le.ac.uk/

The University will also be tweeting live from the conference:
http://twitter.com/uniofleicester

We understand that the BBC may be carrying a live stream via their website and news channel, subject to the news agenda for that day. BBC website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/

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Post by Madeleine » Mon February 4th, 2013, 10:41 am

Press conference on TV now and they say it is Richard III.
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Post by Amanda » Mon February 4th, 2013, 10:49 am

Watched it all online. How cool!

IT seems like he was meant to be found. His resting place was just covered by a car park, and was found in the archeological trenches, the skeleton is remarkably intact (even a Victorian outhouse didn't disturb it), and there was extractable DNA, which could be compared to lineal descendants, which it was pointed out were the last in their lines.

The stars were aligned, and he was found!

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