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Post by MLE (Emily Cotton) » Fri September 14th, 2012, 12:50 am

[quote=""DianeL""] None of the Tudors, as it turned out, were big fans of Richard's. They conferred on RIII his infamous reputation.[/quote]
You wouldn't expect them to be. If Richard ruled by right, which is to say by parliamentary authority and because his brother's marriage wasn't legal, then none of the Tudors had any claim to the throne. Not only were the Beaufort Lancastrians descended from an illegitimate grandson of Edward III (whose claim to the throne was specifically excluded when he was granted legitimate status), but if Richard's charges were true, then Henry VIII's mum would also have been the illegitimate daughter of Edward VI.

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Post by SonjaMarie » Fri September 14th, 2012, 2:26 am

This is perfect timing cause I'll be starting a bio of Richard III next month or the end of this month.

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Post by SonjaMarie » Fri September 14th, 2012, 2:26 am

[quote=""MLE""]if Richard's charges were true, then Henry VIII's mum would also have been the illegitimate daughter of Edward VI.[/quote]

You mean Edward IV, Edward VI was Henry VIII's son :)

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Post by Nefret » Fri September 14th, 2012, 5:20 am

[quote=""SonjaMarie""]You mean Edward IV, Edward VI was Henry VIII's son :)

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That kind of thing only happens with time travel. :p

In all seriousness, this is making want to read Sunne in Splendor.
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Post by annis » Fri September 14th, 2012, 9:02 pm

In latest news, a Tory Member of Parliament is calling for a state funeral and reburial at either Westminster or York Minster, should the DNA testing currently underway prove the discovered skeleton is that of RIII.

Story here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/1 ... al-richard

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Post by DianeL » Fri September 14th, 2012, 10:05 pm

[quote=""MLE""]You wouldn't expect them to be. If Richard ruled by right, which is to say by parliamentary authority and because his brother's marriage wasn't legal, then none of the Tudors had any claim to the throne. Not only were the Beaufort Lancastrians descended from an illegitimate grandson of Edward III (whose claim to the throne was specifically excluded when he was granted legitimate status), but if Richard's charges were true, then Henry VIII's mum would also have been the illegitimate daughter of Edward VI.[/quote]

I think my post may have read poorly; it was intended to be stated in humor. I know the Plantagenets and Tudors extremely well, so my point was not wide-eyed 'gee whiz' about successive dynasties not all being best buddies. Rather, a slight grin about why the conquered king wasn't honored by the king who deposed him. ;)
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Post by Nefret » Mon September 24th, 2012, 8:32 pm

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We have an urge to kill and our lust for blood has to be fulfilled
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Post by Lisa » Mon October 29th, 2012, 12:52 pm

Another update!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20116118

They have decided on a re-burial in Leicester Cathedral, if the remains are indeed Richard III. I hope the results are out soon, but it sounds like it probably is him, given the battle wounds and the scoliosis.

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Post by DianeL » Tue October 30th, 2012, 2:40 pm

I've been loving this story as it has developed. Thank you for the latest, Lady of Bennachie!
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Post by Nefret » Sat November 3rd, 2012, 5:57 am

I liked following this story. Here is some more.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/3 ... 46417.html
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We have an urge to kill and our lust for blood has to be fulfilled
WE´LL FIGHT TILL THE END! And send our enemies straight to Hell!
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