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Who really built the pyramids??

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MLE (Emily Cotton)
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Post by MLE (Emily Cotton) » Sat September 27th, 2008, 5:09 pm

[quote=""donroc""]Freud postulated that Moses was an Egyptian, likely a follower of Akhnaton's religion, and the Exodus took place during the upheaveal that followed the Pharoah's death.

Velikovsky rejected Ramses II as the pharoah of the Exodus because, in part, in his view he was too autocratic and powerful to allow so great a migration from his kingdom -- and the great catastrophies took place during a different reign.

All very interesting and controversial, to say the least.[/quote]
But all of those theories were before they discovered the tomb of Rameses II -- a bus driver found it, he noticed that there was a place under the parking lot for the tourist attraction that 'felt hollow' when he drove over it. That was in the eighties, I believe.

Actually, monotheism isn't such a strange idea that it has to be traced to one central thinker. Almost all cultures have at least one thread of monotheistic belief among the many that their philosophers consider.

But Freud was so into connecting things that probably had nothing to do with each other, I wouldn't be surprised if he postulated that the Native American belief in the 'Great Spirit' came from their contact with Irish Monks, who rowed there to get away from all women because of an unspoken Oedipus complex born out of their desire to compete with their father's sexual prowess.

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Post by donroc » Sat September 27th, 2008, 5:34 pm

Freud's most basic point in M&M is that the story of Moses turns the hero myth upside down. The hero is supposed to be born into the royal family, cast out to die because of a prophecy, then discovers his true origins and so on.

According to scripture, Moses is born to a slave family, raised by the royals, and returns to his "people".

Freud decided scripture had to be wrong.

Velikovsky attacked Freud's Moses theory in Oedpus and Akhnaton.

I will not go into Velikovsky's radical change of Egyptian and Greek chronology. That is for another thread.
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Bodo the Apostate, a novel set during the reign of Louis the Pious and end of the Carolingian Empire.

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Post by Volgadon » Sat September 27th, 2008, 7:20 pm

[quote=""MLE""]I used to have a subscription to an archaeology magazine that went over all the new discoveries in that area. It was always fascinating to see how things were developing, new theories coming up and old ones scrapped as various things were dug up. A very inexact science, but lots of fun! .[/quote]

Not BAR by any chance?

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MLE (Emily Cotton)
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Post by MLE (Emily Cotton) » Sat September 27th, 2008, 7:37 pm

[quote=""Volgadon""]Not BAR by any chance?[/quote]
Yep, that's the one.

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Post by Volgadon » Sat September 27th, 2008, 8:52 pm

Great mag. The letters to the editor are priceless.

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