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What do you think of the Government bailout?

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Post by donroc » Wed October 8th, 2008, 1:23 pm

You are welcome.

Gallows humor.

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Post by Leyland » Wed October 8th, 2008, 2:26 pm

The term gallows humor was in my thoughts on the way to work today - the six month extension due date for personal tax returns is just a week away. I wonder what kind of wild tax season I'll be in for in a few months - our firm typically prepare returns for clients with lots of market trading activity and I think I'll probably see some scary stuff in some year end statements. I really feel for the people planning on retiring in the next few years.

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Post by Rowan » Thu October 9th, 2008, 2:25 pm

I find it ironic that the very government who has their job at our discretion (surely someone in Washington D.C. remembers the the government is by the People and for the People) ridicule one another about worrying about 'saving their jobs' rather than voting to go along with this bailout.

We elect politicians and essentially they work for us. In normal business settings, don't employees get fired for doing whatever they want rather than what their boss wants? I know if I went into work one day and either of my bosses told me to do something and rather than doing it I just sat back and read a book all day, they'd tell me to take a hike.

What I would like to see happen, but I know will never realistically happen, is for those who voted for the bailout package initially and criticised the nay-sayers for voting no out of fear or losing their jobs, be impeached. Unless of course their term ends in November. Then we can just vote them all out of office.

Here in Louisiana, the governor was going to sign into legislation a pay-raise for part-time idiots in office. When the word impeachment was floated around, his tune changed.

I've completely lost faith in the federal government and the local government here in Louisiana too, even though our current governor seems okay for the most part. I will not be voting in this election.



Edited to add this photo I just saw on Yahoo of a Zero Dollar bill...

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Post by Hoopking » Fri November 7th, 2008, 8:08 pm

I don't think there is any short term fix that can be done. The only long term fix that I can see is needed, is to somehow get everyone in our USA to see that there is a major over population in this country, and see if the tide can be turned to decrease our size. I wish when I was young that I would have been smarter and only had 1 maybe 2 kids but I am part of the problem having 5. In Arizona alone we have increased to the point that our agriculture is being pushed down to Mexico and South America. Just 5 years ago we had 5 inspectors for fruits and vegetables we are down to 1 inspector because we have no more farmlands. They have been given up for housing. When will the people of America ever learn. I honestly don't believe we have had a president that has cared for the country since Abe Lincoln. It is all about money and glory now. Another thing that kind of eats at me is how many houses does one person or family need? How many movie stars or richer people in general have at least two homes maybe as many as 5. Then they sell for a higher price and push the market value up so high that the regular people have to pay $300,000 for a house that is only worth $75,000. So the unfortunate lower middle class can't afford to buy a nice house for their family and look to the easy lenders to help them have a home to support their family. Whew glad I got that off my chest. :D
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Post by Spitfire » Fri November 7th, 2008, 10:45 pm

The government bailout, is only a bandaid solution to the economic problem. Which is so much huger than just the US, it is actually a global economic problem, as the world stock market is so intertwined. I heard on the news that they are now turning to the UN to find a solution, as it is too big of a problem for any one nation.
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