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Medieval Sicily

annis
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Post by annis » Tue February 24th, 2009, 6:40 pm

Btw, I've just discovered that Cecelia Holland wrote a novel about Holy Roman Emperor Frederick II. Pub. 1970, it's called "Antichrist: a novel of the Emperor Frederick II" For some reason I've never come across this title before.

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Post by Richard » Tue February 24th, 2009, 6:48 pm

[quote=""annis""]You might find something if you trawl through the Islam section of the Medieval Sourcebook, Richard
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/sbook1d.html

There are also a lot of links to further information about Islamic invasions tthroughout history here ( scroll down to the bottom of the page):
http://www.crf-usa.org/bill-of-rights-i ... 0-1-b.html[/quote]


Thanks annis! I did check these sources and they and others (most particularly Hugh Kennedy's "When Baghdad Ruled the Muslim World") were instrumental in writing about the Abbasid Caliphate. However, it was a different Muslim emprire that invaded Sicily, and there seems to be much less information about the Aghlabids from North Africa at that time.
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Post by annis » Tue February 24th, 2009, 7:19 pm

Sorry that was no use to you, Richard. My bad for not realising that the Aghlabids were a separate entity. The only reference to original sources relating to the Aghlabids that i noted was this mention, but I imagine you've already investigated them.

"It is possible to see an account of the Aghlabid invasion of Sicily from 827 in al-Nuwayri's book "Kitab nihayat l'adab" (the book of the ultimate goal in the art of humanities), his work is highly gobbetable. Al-Nuwayri's work can also be cross referenced with the 'Cambridge Chronicle', an account of the Aghlabid invasion of Sicily by an unknown Christian author. The 'Cambridge Chronicle' is also, highly gobbetable."

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Post by Richard » Tue February 24th, 2009, 7:49 pm

Thanks! I will try to find those two books, that's just what I was after. I think I've read a secondary source that references al-Nuwayri.

By the way, what means "gobbetable"? :)
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Post by annis » Wed February 25th, 2009, 4:51 am

Posted by Richard
By the way, what means "gobbetable"?
Lol - it's new word for me as well- sounds positively nausea-inducing, doesn't it? My dictionary tells me that "gobbet" can have the meaning "an extract, especially for translation or comment" , so I'm assuming that "gobbetable" is related to this, perhaps meaning something like "useful for taking extracts from"?

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You might find this book interesting
"Muslims and Christians in Norman Sicily" (See section "Sicily before 1100")
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Post by Richard » Wed February 25th, 2009, 9:14 pm

I think that's a palpable hit, Annis. Metcalfe's book looks like exactly the right place to start! Thanks for digging in for me.
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Post by annis » Sat February 28th, 2009, 5:35 pm

You're welcome, Richard. It's in my own interests- I want to read your book someday (especially after reading the first couple of chapters on your website) :)

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Post by Richard » Sun March 1st, 2009, 8:45 pm

Just got the 3-volume "A History of Sicily" from the library - by Finney and Denis Mack Smith. The entire invasion and conquest I'm interested in for my next book takes up two pages in the whole set - but I can get a lot of "color" material and there is always the bibliography for next steps. Still trying to locate a library copy of the book Annis recommended.
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Post by Volgadon » Sun March 1st, 2009, 9:49 pm

Plus it does help extrapolate earlier events.

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Post by annis » Mon March 2nd, 2009, 7:45 pm

Richard- while doing some background browsing to go with my current read (Martin Davies' "The Unicorn Road"), I came across a couple of articles which might be of interest to you:


Sicilian Peoples: The Arabs
Vincenzo Salerno


Muslim Sicily
Gian Luigi Scarfiotti and Paul Lunde

Timeline: Arab Invasion of Sicily and Italy


Islam in Sicily ( Can be downloaded as a PDF doc. as well)
Alwi Alatas

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