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Eleanor of Aquitaine
- diamondlil
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Eleanor of Aquitaine
Eleanor did go on crusade, and there were rumours of her having a relationship with her uncle, but they have mostly been dismissed now.
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[quote=""diamondlil""]Eleanor did go on crusade, and there were rumours of her having a relationship with her uncle, but they have mostly been dismissed now.[/quote]
Alison Weir says Eleanor did have relations with her uncle - based on one very dubious chronicler who was most likely lying through his teeth to give Eleanor a bad name. Which is why I read Weir with a huge pinch of salt!
Has anyone read the Eleanor of Aquitaine novel Power of a Woman? Forgotten who it's by.
Alison Weir says Eleanor did have relations with her uncle - based on one very dubious chronicler who was most likely lying through his teeth to give Eleanor a bad name. Which is why I read Weir with a huge pinch of salt!
Has anyone read the Eleanor of Aquitaine novel Power of a Woman? Forgotten who it's by.
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Souvent entre piez de chevals
Kar ja li coard nI chasront
'The Brave and the valiant
Are always to be found between the hooves of horses
For never will cowards fall down there.'
Histoire de Guillaume le Mareschal
www.elizabethchadwick.com
[quote=""EC2""]Is that the Ellen Jones book Misfit - Beloved Enemy? Not read it, but I've heard about it. Jean Plaidy based a novel on that premise too. It's all down to some comment in a chronicle where Stephen says something loving towards Henry and it's been (wilfully) misconstrued by modern mindset. A bit like trendy historians at one time saying Richard I was gay because he shared a bed with Philip of France.[/quote]
That's the book. Rumor or not about Eleanor it was very eewwww the way it was portrayed in the book.
That's the book. Rumor or not about Eleanor it was very eewwww the way it was portrayed in the book.
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One of my favorite Eleanor novels (aside from the Penman books) is Judith Tarr's Queen of Swords. The book itself is really about the crusade as seen through the eyes of the Byzantines in the area, but there is a great bit of Eliz leading the army into battle
My fav non fiction is Amy Kelly's Eleanor and the Four Kings. I don't remember any mention of a relationship with her uncle; I suspect like many bright, powerful and outspoken women, rumors flew around her unchecked.
My fav non fiction is Amy Kelly's Eleanor and the Four Kings. I don't remember any mention of a relationship with her uncle; I suspect like many bright, powerful and outspoken women, rumors flew around her unchecked.
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[quote=""Ash""]One of my favorite Eleanor novels (aside from the Penman books) is Judith Tarr's Queen of Swords. The book itself is really about the crusade as seen through the eyes of the Byzantines in the area, but there is a great bit of Eliz leading the army into battle
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I have that book so I'm so glad to hear that!!
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I have that book so I'm so glad to hear that!!

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Books to the sky,
My pile of books is a mile high.
How I love them! How I need them!
I'll have a long beard by the time I read them. --Arnold Lobel
Then I don't recommend the novel "The Tiger & The Rose" by Richard Cameron Low, who not only says that she went on crusade but also infers (in the novel) that:
1. she was a virgin at the time - not true
2. she had an affair with a Kurd called Ayub at Antioch, the resultant offspring being Saladin himself! - far from true (i guess that beats the uncle theory!)
3. that Henry met Rosamund in the early stages of his marriage to Eleanor and fell in love with her then - though the "affair" takes place much later.
let's hear some more wild theories on Eleanor in fiction or non-fiction!
1. she was a virgin at the time - not true
2. she had an affair with a Kurd called Ayub at Antioch, the resultant offspring being Saladin himself! - far from true (i guess that beats the uncle theory!)
3. that Henry met Rosamund in the early stages of his marriage to Eleanor and fell in love with her then - though the "affair" takes place much later.
let's hear some more wild theories on Eleanor in fiction or non-fiction!
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