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Nefret
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Favorite HF book: Welsh Princes trilogy
Preferred HF: The Middle Ages (England), New Kingdom Egypt, Medieval France
Location: Temple of Isis

Postby Nefret » Thu May 14th, 2009, 12:03 am

"Mattigan" wrote:The Traitor's Wife by Susan Higginbotham.

Which book are you visiting?


The very same. How are you liking your visit?

annis
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Postby annis » Thu May 14th, 2009, 12:37 am

Posted by Ken
t is 1244 and I'm Gruffudd ap Llewelyn (Llewelyn's ap G's dad) and I'm in the Tower of London. Although I've gained a few pounds in captivity, I think it would be cool to make a rope of the bed sheets and scale down the Tower walls from my window, so I can go and claim my Welsh Prince heritage! Oops!! Bad idea!


I remember this scene so well and yet do you think I can recall the name of the book?!
You'll have to put me out of my misery and remind me of the title, Ken :)

Chatterbox
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Location: New York

Postby Chatterbox » Thu May 14th, 2009, 12:56 am

I'm hearing about John Donne's scandalous reputation from my cousin, and reading his poetry is making me blush.

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Ken
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Location: Truro, Cornwall, UK

Postby Ken » Thu May 14th, 2009, 7:18 am

"annis" wrote:Posted by Ken


I remember this scene so well and yet do you think I can recall the name of the book?!
You'll have to put me out of my misery and remind me of the title, Ken :)



SKP's 'Falls the Shadow', Chapter XV, page 194! (and a few other historical books as well). Senena, Gruffudd's wife (another incredible MA woman!), helps him drug his guards and Owain, his son starts to lower him down, until ........! King Henry 111 then releases Owain, to cause unrest between his brothers Dafydd and Llewelyn over their claims to Gwynedd.
Great stuff isn't it?

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boswellbaxter
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Postby boswellbaxter » Thu May 14th, 2009, 12:34 pm

"Ken" wrote:SKP's 'Falls the Shadow', Chapter XV, page 194! (and a few other historical books as well). Senena, Gruffudd's wife (another incredible MA woman!), helps him drug his guards and Owain, his son starts to lower him down, until ........! King Henry 111 then releases Owain, to cause unrest between his brothers Dafydd and Llewelyn over their claims to Gwynedd.
Great stuff isn't it?


I would love to see a novel with a sympathetic Serena. (She might have been in Edith Pargeter's trilogy, but I couldn't get through it and can't recall.)
Susan Higginbotham
Coming in October: The Woodvilles


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Ken
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Location: Truro, Cornwall, UK

Postby Ken » Thu May 14th, 2009, 1:37 pm

"boswellbaxter" wrote:I would love to see a novel with a sympathetic Serena. (She might have been in Edith Pargeter's trilogy, but I couldn't get through it and can't recall.)


She was and her treatment was pretty sympathetic. Senena actually had a major influence on the history of Wales. When Llewelyn Fawr died in 1240, Dafydd his legitimate son by Joanne, succeeded him despite being younger than the rightful heir (under Welsh law), his half-brother Gruffudd. When Gruffudd challenged his succession, Dafydd had him imprisoned in Cricieth castle along with Gruffudd's son Owain.
Senena went to the court of Henry 111 and complained at the injustice of it all. The King appeared sympathetic, but he had his own plans for Gwynedd! Although he agreed to force Dafydd to release her husband and son, it would only be on the condition that they be transferred to London, where he could deliberate on the 'portioning' of Gwynnedd between them all!!

Gruffudd therefore just exchanged a prison in Wales for a cell in the Tower of London. If Senena had not petitioned Henry for his release, Gruffudd would not have died trying to escape and who knows, might have secured his freedom from Cricieth. The subsequent succession of Llewelyn ap Gruffudd, following the death of Dafydd in 1246, may not have happened!!!

Who needs fiction? The real events are remarkable enough!!

Mattigan
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Location: Texas,at the moment

Postby Mattigan » Sat May 16th, 2009, 9:14 am

"Nefret" wrote:The very same. How are you liking your visit?


I'm not there any longer but I enjoyed the visit. I wouldn't have minded for the story to have gone on. Maybe Hugh and Besswill revisit some of them.

I wonder when it will be published?

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boswellbaxter
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Postby boswellbaxter » Sat May 16th, 2009, 11:27 am

"Mattigan" wrote:I'm not there any longer but I enjoyed the visit. I wouldn't have minded for the story to have gone on. Maybe Hugh and Besswill revisit some of them.

I wonder when it will be published?


August 1, since you ask. :)
Susan Higginbotham

Coming in October: The Woodvilles





http://www.susanhigginbotham.com/

http://www.susanhigginbotham.com/blog/

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Nefret
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Favorite HF book: Welsh Princes trilogy
Preferred HF: The Middle Ages (England), New Kingdom Egypt, Medieval France
Location: Temple of Isis

Postby Nefret » Sun May 17th, 2009, 3:15 am

"Mattigan" wrote:I'm not there any longer but I enjoyed the visit. I wouldn't have minded for the story to have gone on. Maybe Hugh and Besswill revisit some of them.

I wonder when it will be published?


Ah, I am still visiting there. Was briefly sent to modern Chicago.

And August seems so far away.

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Vanessa
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Currently reading: The Music Shop by Rachel Joyce & The Poison Bed by E C Fremantle (Pigeonhole)
Interest in HF: The first historical novel I read was Katherine by Anya Seton and this sparked off my interest in this genre.
Favorite HF book: Gone with the Wind by Margaret Mitchell!
Preferred HF: Any
Location: North Yorkshire, UK

Postby Vanessa » Tue May 19th, 2009, 7:30 am

I'm on a cotton farm in the Mississippi Delta in 1946 and the house I'm living in is not what I expected.
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Books are mirrors, you only see in them what you already have inside you ~ The Shadow of the Wind


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