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chuck
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Triumph of the Will

Postby chuck » Fri February 13th, 2009, 4:06 pm

"annis" wrote:"Triumph of the Will" is a powerful documentary, whatever you think of Leni Riefenstahl. Those huge massed rallies, using imagery based on the triumphs held by the Roman Empire, are scarily impressive. I recently watched some You Tube clips of the Nuremberg Rally and a Youth Rally presided over by Hitler and it sent shivers up my spine.
(One of the wonders of the internet is being able to see history in action)


Hello Annis....In college I had a class that showed the film in it's totality.....and Yes it was so impressive, well done and very SCARY.....I have never seen anything like it.....Leni was very talented and it was a shame that she did not see the what was coming and should have got out that political propaganda arena as soon as possible......the film (if produced) should be really interesting....Everything Ive seen and heard about her is so ostricized and tainted by her Nazi Party experiences that it is hard to look at her objectively....I wonder if the real truth/reason is out there....She is such a mystery.....

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nona
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Postby nona » Fri February 13th, 2009, 5:52 pm

who is Leni R. ?

chuck
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Leni Riefenstahl

Postby chuck » Fri February 13th, 2009, 6:31 pm

"nona" wrote:who is Leni R. ?


She is a famous for her propaganda film called "Triumph of the Will".....very controversial woman.....check her out on wikipedia and see a few clips of TOTW on U Tube...Beautifully filmed and directed and yet scary at the power of the film's over all visual influence......

annis
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Postby annis » Sat February 14th, 2009, 2:55 am

Full movie hereif you're interested, Nona. It will take a few moments to load so hang in there.

Info on Leni herself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leni_Riefenstahl
She was very taken with Hitler, but always swore that she never bought into the whole Nazi deal, though she has been vilified over the years for her connection to the Nazi movement.

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Postby enelya » Mon February 16th, 2009, 4:17 pm

I have seen it as well in college, and I have to agree, it is scary. But I think that's mainly because we now know things about the Hitler regime and things that would happen that weren't known when the movie was made. Our knowledge of events gives it a sinister, creepy undertone.
All in all, hard to watch, although I could appreciate the work that went in it and the beauty of some shots

chuck
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Teutonic Crusade

Postby chuck » Mon February 16th, 2009, 7:08 pm

"enelya" wrote:I have seen it as well in college, and I have to agree, it is scary. But I think that's mainly because we now know things about the Hitler regime and things that would happen that weren't known when the movie was made. Our knowledge of events gives it a sinister, creepy undertone.
All in all, hard to watch, although I could appreciate the work that went in it and the beauty of some shots


Very good point.......The "Triumph of the Will" film; reminded me of the old scenes from "The Crusaders" film by Cecil B. De Mille (facts be dammed) ....where Peter the Hermit was preaching "God Wills It" and challenging all of Europe to take up "The Cross" and to take back the Holy Land....Hitler loved Frederick the Great and the Teutonic myths.....and LR used that imagery, sets and lighting to create the Teutonic image....
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Postby SonjaMarie » Wed April 8th, 2009, 3:48 am

Al Pacino to play Napoleon in family movie
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090408/film_nm/us_pacino_1

Al Pacino, who has long been interested in tackling the character of Napoleon, is set to play the French strongman in a movie based on the children's book "Betsy and the Emperor.".....

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Madeleine
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Postby Madeleine » Wed April 8th, 2009, 11:00 am

Well he's certainly small enough! Great actor though.

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Postby LoveHistory » Wed April 8th, 2009, 1:45 pm

Pacino as Napolean? That will be interesting. I'll have to see that 'cause I can't quite imagine it.

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Postby michellemoran » Wed April 8th, 2009, 3:36 pm

Al Pacino, who has long been interested in tackling the character of Napoleon, is set to play the French strongman in a movie based on the children's book "Betsy and the Emperor.".....


How interesting. I wonder why - of all the wonderful novels and biographies out there - he'd choose a children book???? Though I have to admit I've never read it. Is it particularly cinematic? Strange.
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