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The things you find at Costco....

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Post by Leyland » Wed February 18th, 2009, 11:56 pm

He looks very confident and quite at home. I hope you get to keep him. I think he looks like a Churchill!
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Post by LCW » Thu February 19th, 2009, 12:11 am

[quote=""cw gortner""]Adorable. He looks as if he has a Sharpai mix in him. They're known as a breed that by and large is very unfazed. I'd have scooped him up to. He might not be anyone's pet anymore; those yeasty ears is a tip-off. [/quote]

I thought he looked "sharpei-ish" too! But I think a lot of that has to do with his coloring. I've seen pitbull puppies with his face, muzzle, and body type before and they sort of grow into their big faces. But you never really know! And it makes sense about the ears. I don't think any owner would've allowed them to get that bad. They were so gross they were making his whole body stink. I had to clean them first thing, even before I gave him a bath, as they stunk so bad and I didn't want him stinking up my house :o !

Well, I took him to the vet and they did a scan for a chip and found nothing. I sort of figured that. Next step is to see if any of the ads I put out get anything. I have a feeling that he's goona be mine though! The vet tech really wanted him but I told him I had dibs if he goes unclaimed! :D
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Post by cw gortner » Thu February 19th, 2009, 12:35 am

It's great that you feed raw. I do that, too, with my corgi, and she's in amazing shape. The raw diet will really help him if he has any tendency toward ear issues. There's something about the shape of his face and muzzle that makes me think he's a Sharpai mix; that would be great, as he'll be less likely to get that pitbull adrenaline/aggression that some develop.

I believe you have to be cautious with the breed around smaller or more vulnerable animals as pits reach their second year. Because people breed pits so irresponsibly, they have a fight drive that can come out of nowhere when they reach maturity. I only know this because a friendly pit that used to come to our park all the time and never did anything to any dog, out of the blue went after my dog, Paris, and attacked her. She nearly killed Paris; I had to beat it in the face and pry open its jaws - which were clamped around Paris's ruff, trying to reach her throat - and it turned on me. Paris underwent surgery to repair her frayed ear and a huge puncture wound in her upper back; the pit owner paid my vet bill and put his dog down. I was stunned, but he told me, pits can turn aggressive for no reason when they turn two and he had a child in the house that he didn't want to risk.

I'd never heard of this before but my vet confirmed it, particularly among female pits toward other female dogs and male toward males. Neutering/spaying helps reduce the urge to fight, apparently. My dog is spayed but I don't know if the pit was. You mentioned wanting a Presa Canario, though, so you probably know how to train the dogs so they can co-exist with other animals peacefully.

Also, you have an older dog who'll teach that little cutie the lay of the land quick enough :)
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Post by Tanzanite » Thu February 19th, 2009, 1:06 am

He is so cute - and you're right, he looks a lot like Daddy (Ceasar is my husband's hero!!)

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Post by MLE (Emily Cotton) » Thu February 19th, 2009, 1:07 am

Good for you, LCW! We lease a piece of agricultural property surrounded by urban space, and people are always dumping unwanted animals near us. And our lease pasturage is bounded by a freeway on one side and the busy frontage road on the other -- about as safe for a puppy as a Costco parking lot.

If the animal is a carnivore (dog or cat-- nothing else in that category, at least so far) we try to trap it and take it to the shelter. The local animal control has become a good friend from all the hours chasing mutts through the creek and back. If it's herbivorous (rooster, duck, rabbit, guinea pig) we just let it graze. The local wild predators will take care of it and they need to eat, too. (Although we had an abandoned rabbit we tagged survivor that hung out with the llamas and died of old age)

I wouldn't doubt that the puppy was dropped off. In my experience, most urban people are very immature in their relations with animals. They value their need to feel warm and fuzzy and ignore the reality of the suffering that the animal will go through to feed their careless hope it will 'find a good home'. But it looks like this pup, at least, did.

Don't get me started on the pot-belly pig somebody dumped!

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Post by LCW » Thu February 19th, 2009, 2:22 am

[quote=""cw gortner""] It's great that you feed raw. I do that, too, with my corgi, and she's in amazing shape.....[/quote]

I really think raw is the way to go. My cats are on raw as well. It can be overwhelming when you first start but once you get the hang of it it's so easy. I'm also very lucky because my vet is 100% supportive of raw and actually recommends it over kibble.

[quote=""cw gortner""]
I believe you have to be cautious with the breed around smaller or more vulnerable animals as pits reach their second year. Because people breed pits so irresponsibly, they have a fight drive that can come out of nowhere when they reach maturity. [/quote]

There's a saying in the pit bull world, "Never trust a pit bull not to fight". They were bred for fighting and still are. As long as people continue to breed them for illegal purposes and then irresponsible backyard breeders breed their "sweet wonderful dogs who wouldn't hurt a fly" then the fighting tendancies will remain in the breed's genes. As a pitbull owner you have to be honest about that fact or you are a headline waiting to happen. And yes, they have those tendancies but that doesn't mean they should be uncontrollable around other dogs or are the vicious killing machines they are made out to be. They are wonderful, loving, loyal, goofy, sweethearts who make great pets for the right people. And of course, there are many many many pit bulls who really wouldn't hurt a fly!! Like all breeds though, they come with their own set of responsibilites and are not for everyone. But when you get it right, a pit bull can be one of the greatest dogs in the world! I just love 'em!!
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Post by LCW » Thu February 19th, 2009, 2:25 am

[quote=""MLE""]
Don't get me started on the pot-belly pig somebody dumped![/quote]

:eek: OMG! That must've been something, lol!! If he was just dumped then it's definitely their loss and my gain!!
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Post by LCW » Thu February 19th, 2009, 2:27 am

[quote=""Tanzanite""]He is so cute - and you're right, he looks a lot like Daddy (Ceasar is my husband's hero!!)[/quote]

I think a lot of Ceasar's methods are antiquated and don't take into account the latest scientific findings on dog behavior. But he does have some good stuff. Like all things, take the good and leave the bad. I think in most cases positive reinforcement training is the best but there are times when a properly applies correction is called for. At least he's out there showing that pit bulls are just dogs, not the monsters they're made out to be!!
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Post by EC2 » Thu February 19th, 2009, 10:16 am

CW and LCW, you feed raw? Good to hear that because so do we with our mongrel mutt, especially that your vet is supportive CW. Our vet's not so keen due to issues of contamination in uncooked meat, but I trust my butcher's sources and the dog's been eating raw for nearly 11 years now and other than natural ageing symptoms is happy and healthy.
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Post by LoveHistory » Thu February 19th, 2009, 4:27 pm

I hope you get to keep him, LCW. Have to admit Shar-Pei was the first thing that popped into my mind as well. Next was pit bull.

I can't imagine anyone dumping a puppy. Even though I know it happens. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

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