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And I thought I was picky about apostrophes . . .

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And I thought I was picky about apostrophes . . .

Post by boswellbaxter » Wed February 4th, 2009, 2:45 am

Here are some people who are worse!
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Post by SonjaMarie » Wed February 4th, 2009, 3:16 am

Playskool must really send them over the edge!

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Post by LoveHistory » Wed February 4th, 2009, 4:32 am

I have to agree that stress makes it worse. I'm a complusive correcter and when I start annoying friends it always goes back to how stressed out I am.

But I've never defaced a sign. And Playskool doesn't bother me.

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Post by juleswatson » Wed February 4th, 2009, 8:54 am

Did you hear that over here in the UK one of the local councils has given up on apostrophes altogether? They just decided to ditch them from road and other council signs.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west ... 858853.stm

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Post by sweetpotatoboy » Wed February 4th, 2009, 12:54 pm

I'm confessedly a bit of a spelling snob myself (though not a Truss fan, by the way).

But I have a certain respect for this approach with placenames. There has never been any consistency in the use of the apostrophe in placenames and if the inhabitants of a town spell it without an apostrophe, who is in a position to correct them? Once it becomes a name, it doesn't really have any meaning outside of that.

Earls Court (in west London) is no longer the court of an earl; it's just a name and it appears to have lost its apostrophe. Ditto Shepherds Bush, which sometimes has the apostrophe and sometimes doesn't. I don't see the same approach shouldn't be applied to street names -- within reason, though I wouldn't be in favour of councils spending money to "correct" something that is already technically correct for the sake of consistency.

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Post by Rowan » Wed February 4th, 2009, 2:25 pm

I am a self-proclaimed grammar nazi, though I have gotten myself well under control. I used to correct people all the time. LOL It was bad. Now the only thing I do now is when I am questioned about what I'm "fixing" for a meal, I respond with, "I'm not fixing anything; nothing's broken." I know "fixin'" is a Southern thing, but I have weeded it out of my vocabulary.

I do not go to the extremes of avoiding a place like Krispy Kreme because I know it's not a spelling error, but a marketing ploy. They want the name of their company to stand out and be memorable so they use an alternate spelling because they know it's something that will stand out. Also, they might've wanted to use Crispy Creme, but it could've been in use in some podunk town in Kansas for all we know. Whatever the reason, the woman first mentioned in the story is far more extreme than I have ever been. I'm sure she'd avoid Mardi Gras in New Orleans because we call our organisations krewes instead of crews. :rolleyes:

The apostrophe thing, though, that Jules pointed out (and which I read over the weekend and was irate over lol) does bother me. A lot. It doesn't matter if Earls Court is no longer a court owned by an earl. That's the name of the place, irrespective of ownership now. It's the name the place was given at its founding and shouldn't be changed just because some people are too lazy to learn the basics of grammar. I really think that's what it boils down to: people who can't be bothered to learn the basics of grammar. I'm not saying everyone should be able to diagram a sentence, because I know I can't and I have a Bachelor of Arts in English.

In an age where the written word is the first means of communication with a potential customer, any way that you can make a good impression is key to your success. In my opinion, having effective communication (i.e. good basic grammar) should be your #1 priority. Poor grammar demonstrates to me that you either can't be bothered to learn the basics or that you are unwilling to consult someone who does know the basics.

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Post by Ariadne » Wed February 4th, 2009, 4:07 pm

Years ago, when it was founded, Publishers Weekly had an apostrophe in its title. No more. :) And I bet that woman won't be taking her her Krispy Kremes to eat at one of KOA's Kamping Kabins either.

The spelling of the latter always annoyed me, because the gimmicky spelling made it seem too cutesy. Kutesy. ugh. stop me now.

Let me check to see if the Language Log has anything to say about the disappearing apostrophe phenomenon.... and yep, of course they do. Worth reading. Gradual elimination of the apostrophe is most common with place names, as Sweetpotatoboy remarked. We have an education library where I work called the Ballenger Teachers Center. The apostrophe issue was debated in heated discussions (ok, not really) but eventually it was decided not to include it. The Center is designed for teachers; it doesn't belong to teachers, so it's not properly a possessive.

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Post by boswellbaxter » Wed February 4th, 2009, 4:28 pm

The Krispy Kreme lady doesn't know what she's missing. Anyway, as the alternative in most parts of the country is Dunkin' Donuts (at least it has the apostrophe for the missing "g"), she might as well surrender and buy herself a box of the glazed. Yummy.
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Post by Rowan » Wed February 4th, 2009, 5:16 pm

Oh yeah I forgot to mention that I don't eat KK because I prefer our local chain's donuts. Bigger and cheaper. :p

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Post by SonjaMarie » Wed February 4th, 2009, 5:29 pm

I'm not big on donuts period, so it doesn't bother me what names they go by, LOL!

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