Annis has just reviewed Michael Chabon's Gentlemen of the Road for http://www.HistoricalNovels.info (see http://www.HistoricalNovels.info/Gentle ... -Road.html), and it got me thinking about this genre of masculine adventure, which I think is really the male counterpart of historical romance. Gentlemen of the Road is Chabon's let's-have-fun novel that is a deliberate throw-back to the old pulp-style historicals of the first half of the 20th century. Those stories, like the dime novel cowboy stories, are probably one of the reasons why historical fiction got a bad name and is only now starting to get more respect because of the many authors whose research is excellent and whose style is in the more literary vein that pleases reviewers at the major newspapers and magazines.
But the old swashbucklers still have a following. Who hasn't seen Captain Blood, the movie made from Rafael Sabatini's novel? While researching examples of pulp historicals for the review post, I discovered that a surprising number of these have been reprinted in modern editions. Robert E. Howard was probably the instigator of this genre in the 20th century. Then there was Harold Lamb, L. Sprague de Camp, and others. Does anyone here read these oldies?
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Swashbucklers and Pulp-Style Adventures
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Swashbucklers and Pulp-Style Adventures
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Yes, I grew up with the swashbucklers, which I never considered to be pulp. So many were made into entertaining film.
I still return to Sabatini on occasion and have fond memories of Costain, Shellabarger, Edson Marshall, Schoonover, Slaughter, Feuchtwanger, early Frank Yerby, and so many others who inspired me in my youth to dream one day of writing HF.
Yes, their MCs were males and as boys we wanted to buckle the swash with them.
I still return to Sabatini on occasion and have fond memories of Costain, Shellabarger, Edson Marshall, Schoonover, Slaughter, Feuchtwanger, early Frank Yerby, and so many others who inspired me in my youth to dream one day of writing HF.
Yes, their MCs were males and as boys we wanted to buckle the swash with them.
Bodo the Apostate, a novel set during the reign of Louis the Pious and end of the Carolingian Empire.
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[quote=""donroc""]Yes, I grew up with the swashbucklers, which I never considered to be pulp. So many were made into entertaining film.
I still return to Sabatini on occasion and have fond memories of Costain, Shellabarger, Edson Marshall, Schoonover, Slaughter, Feuchtwanger, early Frank Yerby, and so many others who inspired me in my youth to dream one day of writing HF.
Yes, their MCs were males and as boys we wanted to buckle the swash with them.[/quote]
All great reads.....As a young lad I was blessed to read some of the above classics with illustrations by Howard Pyle and N.C. Wyeth....I miss those great books with those beautiful prints.....they made the characters and story come alive....Today I'm sure it would be to expensive to include prints....
I still return to Sabatini on occasion and have fond memories of Costain, Shellabarger, Edson Marshall, Schoonover, Slaughter, Feuchtwanger, early Frank Yerby, and so many others who inspired me in my youth to dream one day of writing HF.
Yes, their MCs were males and as boys we wanted to buckle the swash with them.[/quote]
All great reads.....As a young lad I was blessed to read some of the above classics with illustrations by Howard Pyle and N.C. Wyeth....I miss those great books with those beautiful prints.....they made the characters and story come alive....Today I'm sure it would be to expensive to include prints....
[quote=""chuck""]All great reads.....As a young lad I was blessed to read some of the above classics with illustrations by Howard Pyle and N.C. Wyeth....I miss those great books with those beautiful prints.....they made the characters and story come alive....Today I'm sure it would be to expensive to include prints....[/quote]
I still have my four volume Howard Pyle Scribners Brandywine edition of King Arthur and his knights. As you say, beautiful prints. They have been reissued for $19.95 each, I believe, but I have no idea about the quality.
Mine cost $3.95 in the early 1940s -- expensive for that era.
I still have my four volume Howard Pyle Scribners Brandywine edition of King Arthur and his knights. As you say, beautiful prints. They have been reissued for $19.95 each, I believe, but I have no idea about the quality.
Mine cost $3.95 in the early 1940s -- expensive for that era.
Bodo the Apostate, a novel set during the reign of Louis the Pious and end of the Carolingian Empire.
http://www.donaldmichaelplatt.com
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- MLE (Emily Cotton)
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OK, Yerby is definitely swashbuckler, cranked out for the pulp market. Some of Sabatini is and some isn't. Shellabarger isn't. Schoonover, at least the two books I have tried to get through, definitely (research stinks). Costain hangs on the edge, but some of his are definitely literature. Both Costain and Shellabarger also wrote history books as well as HF.
Dumas is swashbuckler turned classic. So is the Scarlet Pimpernel. It seems like the Flashman series is an over-the-top sendup of the swashbuckler pulp novel.
Would you call Zane Grey's westerns a variant of this?
I think that historical romance has done more to give HF a bad name than the swashbuckling genre.
Dumas is swashbuckler turned classic. So is the Scarlet Pimpernel. It seems like the Flashman series is an over-the-top sendup of the swashbuckler pulp novel.
Would you call Zane Grey's westerns a variant of this?
I think that historical romance has done more to give HF a bad name than the swashbuckling genre.
Pulp Westerns?....I think of Max Brand.....Are we teetering on the brink of leaping into a general discussion about Pulp Fiction?....could be fun....It definitely had influences on HF.....
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I love swashbucklers and westerns, but I only read them occasionally as a treat, and I've probably gotten more exposure to them through films than through books. Sabatini and Shellabarger are two that I read a lot of when young, along with some of the books of Robert Louis Stevenson. A lot of people remember Sir Arthur Conan Doyle for Sherlock Holmes, but he also wrote historical adventures. The White Company is one that is a lot of fun to read. Takes place during the time of Edward III. Another good old-fashioned one is Mary Johnston's To Have and To Hold (set in colonial Jamestown) -- might be labeled historical romance, but the pirate sections definitely place it on par with something like Captain Blood (and it is one of those that I think was reissued in recent years with a lovely new cover).
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Sir Walter Scott was pretty swashbuckling, too, wasn't he?
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Currently reading GMF's "The Reavers" - certainly plenty of swash and buckle - considering the "leading man" is described as extremely Errol Flynn-like!
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