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Charles Edward Stuart

Post by Rowan » Wed April 27th, 2016, 2:22 pm

Anyone know of any titles for books featuring Bonnie Prince Charlie as the primary character?

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Re: Charles Edward Stuart

Post by MLE (Emily Cotton) » Sun May 1st, 2016, 3:01 pm

Oddly enough, I don't. You'd think he'd be one novelists would jump on.

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Re: Charles Edward Stuart

Post by Misfit » Sun May 1st, 2016, 5:20 pm

I'm drawing a blank too, but try this list at Goodreads and see if there's anything there.

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/377 ... estoration
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Re: Charles Edward Stuart

Post by Susan » Sun May 1st, 2016, 10:29 pm

Charles Edward Stuart is after the Civil War and Restoration. He was born in 1720 in Italy after the Hanovers had inherited the British throne from the Stuarts in 1714. He's in the second Outlander novel Dragonfly in Amber preparing to invade (the unsuccessful Battle of Culloden in 1745), not as the main character of course. A website about royalty has a pretty good bibliography of royalty-related books. The page on Charles Edward Stuart does have several novels: http://www.royalty.nu/Europe/Charlie.html
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Re: Charles Edward Stuart

Post by Misfit » Sun May 1st, 2016, 11:27 pm

The actor portraying him in the current Outlander episodes is quite something.
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Re: Charles Edward Stuart

Post by Rowan » Mon May 2nd, 2016, 7:34 pm

Thanks for your input, ladies! Outlander is the reason I'm asking. My mother loves the books and relies on me for historical knowledge. Unfortunately I don't know anything about this period of English history. :oops: :oops:

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Post by Misfit » Mon May 2nd, 2016, 9:09 pm

Rowan wrote:Thanks for your input, ladies! Outlander is the reason I'm asking. My mother loves the books and relies on me for historical knowledge. Unfortunately I don't know anything about this period of English history. :oops: :oops:
Hah, my feeble brain just realized I gave you a list for the wrong period *head desk*
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Re: Charles Edward Stuart

Post by Rowan » Mon May 2nd, 2016, 9:17 pm

It's all good Misfit. :) :lol:

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Re: Charles Edward Stuart

Post by Misfit » Mon May 2nd, 2016, 9:19 pm

Rowan wrote:It's all good Misfit. :) :lol:
Heh. What about Kearsley's books on that. Isn't The Winter Sea set in that period?
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Re: Charles Edward Stuart

Post by Susan » Mon May 2nd, 2016, 11:40 pm

Winter Sea is earlier. It's during the time of the thwarted invasion of James Stuart (The Old Pretender, son of King James II who was deposed in 1688, and father of Charles Edward Stuart) in 1708. There was a Jacobite Rising in 1715, the year after the House of Hanover succeeded to the British throne, by James Stuart, the Old Pretender. It is referred to in the Outlander books. The last rising was in 1745 (Charles Edward Stuart) which ended in the loss at the Battle of Culloden.

The names get confusing because there is some repetition, so here is a brief guide. At the royalty website, I help administer (http://www.unofficialroyalty.com), we have articles on the Stuarts, Hanovers and other monarchs. We're working on the missing ones. See http://www.unofficialroyalty.com/royal- ... als-index/

King James II (1633-1701), son of King Charles I, succeeded his brother King Charles II who had no legitimate children, but a ton of illegitimate ones. James II converted to Catholicism, then in 1688 had a son James Stuart, the Old Pretender, by his second wife. Because of the fear of a return to Catholicism, James II was deposed in 1688 when Parliament asked his Protestant eldest daughter by his first wife to reign jointly with her husband (William III, Prince of Orange) who was her first cousin and in the line of succession after Mary and her sister Anne: hence the reign of King William III and Queen Mary II. William and Mary had no children and were succeeded by Mary's sister Anne. Queen Anne had 17 pregnancies with only one child, a son William, Duke of Gloucester, surviving early childhood. He died at age 11 and there were no Protestant Stuarts to succeed to the throne. Therefore, Parliament passed the 1701 Act of Settlement giving the throne to the next nearest Protestant, Sophia, Electress of Hanover and bypassing 56 Catholics who had a better hereditary claim to the throne than Sophia. Sophia died six weeks before Queen Anne died, so her son succeeded Anne as King George I.

James Stuart, The Old Pretender (1688-1766), son of King James II and his second wife Mary of Modena

Charles Edward Stuart, The Young Pretender (1720-1788), son of James Stuart, The Old Pretender

The current Jacobite pretender to the British throne is Franz, Duke of Bavaria: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz,_Duke_of_Bavaria You can see the Jacobite succession here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobite_succession
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