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The Red Queen by PG

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Post by princess garnet » Thu July 22nd, 2010, 8:23 pm

For those who've read Constant Princess, the phrase about doing "God's will" came up throughout the book.

Having seen Margaret appear in other Tudor novels, I don't think I'll be reading this one.

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Post by Misfit » Thu July 22nd, 2010, 8:37 pm

1) Not one mention (by name anyway) of the fishy-water-woman that drove me nuts in the last book.
Thank God.
Well, #3 is somewhat negated by the Joan of Arc channeling thing, to be honest. My head hurts from being hit so often with with it. I'm afraid to count the number of mentions of Joan and how Margaret is doing God's Will.
Might have to make a drinking game of that since we don't have the fishy-woman ;)
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Post by JMJacobsen » Thu July 22nd, 2010, 8:45 pm

[quote=""boswellbaxter""]That could be problematic. Maybe I should get a recording saying, "Joan of Arc" and "God's will" and listen to it every morning in order to toughen up before August.[/quote]

ha! Like conditioning before a race, LOL. I'm nearing the end now and Margie is a little bit delicious evil.

What can I say? It's better than The White Queen. And you will all be happy to know that the mystery of who killed the Princes has finally been solved on page 284. :eek:

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Post by JMJacobsen » Thu July 22nd, 2010, 8:47 pm

[quote=""Misfit""]Thank God.



Might have to make a drinking game of that since we don't have the fishy-woman ;) [/quote]

Fishy woman is only mentioned by name once so far (the big bad "M" word)....other references include fishy-witchy-river-bitchy phrases. I'm overlooking those.

If we tossed a shot for each reference to God's Will, we'd be dead within the hour. I we chose Joan of Arc, we'd be so drunk by chapter 3 that we'd forget what book we started reading. :D

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Post by EC2 » Thu July 22nd, 2010, 8:51 pm

[quote=""JMJacobsen""]
2) The cover is gorgeous. No half-head here and Margaret looks appropriately severe.

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I am afraid that every time I see the cover, I am reminded of the closing scenes of The Sixth Sense with Actress Toni Colette in the car with Cole. The darned model is a dead ringer for the actress, especially with the polo neck jumper on. The url below is TC looking slightly more glamorous.
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Post by JMJacobsen » Thu July 22nd, 2010, 9:26 pm

Crap. Page 313. The dreaded "M" word surfaces at last. Just kill me now.

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Post by JMJacobsen » Thu July 22nd, 2010, 9:27 pm

[quote=""EC2""]I am afraid that every time I see the cover, I am reminded of the closing scenes of The Sixth Sense with Actress Toni Colette in the car with Cole. The darned model is a dead ringer for the actress, especially with the polo neck jumper on. The url below is TC looking slightly more glamorous.
http://images.allmoviephoto.com/1999_Th ... se_001.jpg[/quote]

Now that's just downright creepy. Especially since our Margie evidentally sees dead people, too. In the form of Joan.

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Post by robinbird79 » Fri July 23rd, 2010, 1:39 am

Finished it the day after I got it.

1. Its better than TWQ. Its not too bad.

2. I do not like Margaret Beaufort. In fact, I like her even less now than before I read this.

3. I can only hear about how she's England's Joan of Arc and doing God's will (of course her will is God's, right?!) so many times before I start banging my head against the wall.

4. I actually have no problem with how she portrays R3.
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Post by Divia » Fri July 23rd, 2010, 1:54 am

She likes to beat people over the head with things, doesnt she. Last book it was the fishy woman, this one its Joan of Arc.
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Post by Jemidar » Sat July 24th, 2010, 5:13 pm

I won't be getting my copy for at least another couple of weeks (Why do friends with bookshops go away at such crucial times?!) so I hope the discussion is still running by the time I get mine.

It's a pity Margaret is so unlikable, I was hoping we would somehow get a look at her other side or get some insight into her actions, but it looks like PG has stuck to the tried and true :-( .
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