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Personal responsibility in the wilderness experience

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Mythica
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Re: Personal responsibility in the wilderness experience

Postby Mythica » Fri July 24th, 2015, 9:06 pm

Misfit wrote:
Mythica wrote:
Misfit wrote:He lit a firework on top of his head? A 22 YO who should know better?


A 12 yr old should know better.

Over the recent 4th of July, I witnessed a parent holding a firework as it launched. It was one of the ones with a stick attached to it because you're supposed to stick it into the ground, not hold the stick. But he was doing the fireworks in the middle of the neighborhood street (ironically, for safety reasons, so it was away from the houses) where there was no soft ground to put it in. So he just held it. :roll: Fortunately, he wasn't hurt... but how stupid do you have to be? Not surprisingly, his children were also being irresponsible with the fireworks - stepping on lit smoke bombs and such. I really thought I might witness a Darwin Award that night.


Really, it's time to make them illegal except for professional displays.


It is illegal in PA - but it doesn't stop people, they just get fireworks from NJ. Trouble is, the police don't really enforce it.

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Divia
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Re: Personal responsibility in the wilderness experience

Postby Divia » Sat July 25th, 2015, 6:42 pm

Mythica wrote:
It is illegal in PA - but it doesn't stop people, they just get fireworks from NJ. Trouble is, the police don't really enforce it.


Weird I thought it was legal in PA cause thats where all the NYers go to get theirs. hmmm.
Anyway, its illegal in NY as well, but if you live in the country ain't no one gonna find ya or report ya. when we used to set them off people would honk and scream as they drove by.
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MLE (Emily Cotton)
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Re: Personal responsibility in the wilderness experience

Postby MLE (Emily Cotton) » Sat July 25th, 2015, 9:25 pm

Well, I'm going to go take personal responsibility for myself in the wilderness this next week, which is why I won't be around in the forum unless my smartphone reception is phenominal.

Being responsible, I am not going by myself, but with 3 others; I am traveling trails that I know almost as well as my local streets, and I have left word with multiple people as to where I am going and when they may expect me back.

And I am going to have a blast. Y'all have a good week.

And here's my llama laugh for the month:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv2fGPKTWgo

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Re: Personal responsibility in the wilderness experience

Postby princess garnet » Sat July 25th, 2015, 11:26 pm

Mythica wrote:It is illegal in PA - but it doesn't stop people, they just get fireworks from NJ. Trouble is, the police don't really enforce it.

When we drive up I-81 in PA on our way to New England for Thanksgiving, you can see firework outlet stores and billboards for them from the highway! It's illegal yet all right for sale. :confused: I don't "get" it!

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Mythica
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Re: Personal responsibility in the wilderness experience

Postby Mythica » Sun July 26th, 2015, 6:45 pm

Divia wrote:
Mythica wrote:
It is illegal in PA - but it doesn't stop people, they just get fireworks from NJ. Trouble is, the police don't really enforce it.


Weird I thought it was legal in PA cause thats where all the NYers go to get theirs. hmmm.
Anyway, its illegal in NY as well, but if you live in the country ain't no one gonna find ya or report ya. when we used to set them off people would honk and scream as they drove by.


"Ground" fireworks - like sparklers and toy caps are legal in PA but not the bigger ones.

Although, googling it, it looks like there's some weird law about out-of-state residents being allowed to buy fireworks in PA, but not residents: http://billypenn.com/2015/07/02/pennsyl ... -of-state/

But I'd never heard of that before.

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Misfit
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Re: Personal responsibility in the wilderness experience

Postby Misfit » Wed September 9th, 2015, 12:32 pm

https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/29471 ... d-tragedy/

The cynic in me says there will be sabre rattling and lawyering up demanding better safety warnings.
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