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Post by Volgadon » Thu August 13th, 2009, 8:03 am

[quote=""keny from prague""]Zenda is fun. have you read the sequel "rupert of Hetzenau"?

"the mad king" was ERBs attempt to write a "ruritanian romance". it wasnt too good. ERB is always hit or miss with me.

Keny from Prague, Bohemia (perhaps the real Ruritania :-) [/quote]

Didn't ERB write several like that, or is it just my mind playing tricks.

Lemberg (currently Lviv) would b my bet for Ruritania, if it weren't for a lack of ethnic tension in the books.

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Post by Ash » Thu August 13th, 2009, 1:30 pm

I have never heard the term Ruritania - for others like me, here is an interesting article about the genre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruritania

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Post by Madeleine » Thu August 13th, 2009, 4:28 pm

Haven't heard the name Ruritania for years!
Currently reading "The Dark is Rising by Susan Cooper & "The Christmas Egg" by Mary Kelly

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Post by Jonathan » Sat August 15th, 2009, 2:32 am

[quote=""keny from prague""]Zenda is fun. have you read the sequel "rupert of Hetzenau"?

"the mad king" was ERBs attempt to write a "ruritanian romance". it wasnt too good. ERB is always hit or miss with me.

Keny from Prague, Bohemia (perhaps the real Ruritania :-) [/quote]

Yes, I attempted "Rupert of Hentzau" but found it rather plodding compared to the fast pace of "Zenda".

I have to agree that ERB's "Mad King" was a little too formulaic and sophomoric, but I think I liked it because the main character happened to be from the USA, running about in a fictional Bohemia (with a name like Barney Custer, how could he not be American?). At any rate, I had fun reading it.

Has anyone read the Graustark novels?

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Post by Jonathan » Sat August 15th, 2009, 2:47 am

[quote=""annis""]Harold Lamb has become a bit of an unknown, though he was a major influence on authors like Robert E Howard. His books have been outof print for some time, but several have recently been republished, and i'd suggest you try for those- "The Cossack Adventures", "Swords from the West" and "Swords from the Desert"> Like Howard Lamb wrote mostly for the pulp adventure magazines, so a lot of his fiction is in story, rather than novel format.

Howard Jones, who is a long-time, dedicated HL fan, has a very useful website, called The Curved Saber and you'll find quite a bit of info there.

I only discovered Lamb fairly recently (from this forum) and started off with "Durandal" which is a novel set in the Latin Empire of the thirteenth century. I was impressed with it and wrote a review of it for the Historical Novels Info website, run by Margaret Donsbach who is also a member here.
http://www.historicalnovels.info/Durandal.html
Unfortunately 'Durandal" is fairly hard to find and quite expensive.[/quote]

Annis - Almost done with "Durandal" and am really enjoying it. I can see how it would have influenced REH (also just watched "Kingdom of Heaven" with my nephews the other night, proper inspiration...). I tis the later edition, but I think we have "Sea of Ravens" at the library too.

Any REH fans out there that have visited his museum in Cross Plains, TX? I've realized it is only a few hours from Dallas.

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Post by zsigandr » Sat August 15th, 2009, 10:50 am

Hello and welcome Jonathon!
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Post by Kveto from Prague » Sat August 15th, 2009, 9:38 pm

[quote=""Volgadon""]Didn't ERB write several like that, or is it just my mind playing tricks.

Lemberg (currently Lviv) would b my bet for Ruritania, if it weren't for a lack of ethnic tension in the books.[/quote]

I think wrote the mad king and a sequel to the mad king. I realized i havent read either of ERBs "ruritanian" novels, just reviews of them.

I think hope mentions that ruritania is between Dresdin and Prague, which, well, there are no maor cities between the two, so i think we arent supposed to really try to guess. I always assumed Hope had intended it to be a stand in for the kingdom of bohemia (Czech and Moravia) just because it was a German speaking land (which Prague would have seemed like to many a traveller in the 19th century) I'll bet Hope didnt really have a specific place in mind or the details would come out more clearly. Although the fictional capital of Ruritania. which is Streslau, sounds very Polish.

By the way, to anyone who has read the mad king, is it actually set here in Bohemia? just curious, because if it is, ill probably have to track it down and read it, even if im not so keen on ERB.

Keny from Ruritania

PS this might work better as a new seperate thread :-)
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Post by Jonathan » Sat August 15th, 2009, 10:24 pm

[quote=""keny from prague""]I think wrote the mad king and a sequel to the mad king. I realized i havent read either of ERBs "ruritanian" novels, just reviews of them.

I think hope mentions that ruritania is between Dresdin and Prague, which, well, there are no maor cities between the two, so i think we arent supposed to really try to guess. I always assumed Hope had intended it to be a stand in for the kingdom of bohemia (Czech and Moravia) just because it was a German speaking land (which Prague would have seemed like to many a traveller in the 19th century) I'll bet Hope didnt really have a specific place in mind or the details would come out more clearly. Although the fictional capital of Ruritania. which is Streslau, sounds very Polish.

By the way, to anyone who has read the mad king, is it actually set here in Bohemia? just curious, because if it is, ill probably have to track it down and read it, even if im not so keen on ERB.

Keny from Ruritania

PS this might work better as a new seperate thread :-) [/quote]

Being new, I'm not sure how to direct this as a new thread, so I'll continue my reply here.
The "Mad King" is set in the mythical kingdom of Lutha, though I believe it is described as being near Austria and Serbia. I only read the first part of the story, where Barney saves the king. Apparently, in the second part he returns to Lutha during the beginning of WWI, and aids the kingdom of Lutha against Austrian forces.

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Post by Kveto from Prague » Sun August 16th, 2009, 9:28 pm

hey Johnathan. that wasnt directed at you, just in general as we seemed to be talking more about ruritania than welcoming you.

thanks for the info. betwixt austria and serbia, hmn? lets call it slovenia then :-)

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Post by annis » Mon August 17th, 2009, 4:18 am

Posted by Jonathan
Annis - Almost done with "Durandal" and am really enjoying it. I can see how it would have influenced REH (also just watched "Kingdom of Heaven" with my nephews the other night, proper inspiration...). I tis the later edition, but I think we have "Sea of Ravens" at the library too.
Glad you enjoyed "Durandal" :) "The novel was originally three stories linked together and Donald M Grant's editions cover the first two. He's apparently planning to issue the 3rd volume sometime in 2010 - title will be "Rusadan". I was fortunate to pick up an original 1931 ed, which ontained the whole lot in one book.

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