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Victoria (US broadcast January 2017)

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Re: Victoria (US broadcast January 2017)

Post by Misfit » Sat February 18th, 2017, 5:45 pm

http://www.pbs.org/video/2365955486/

The actor playing Albert talks about his favorite romantic scenes.
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Re: Victoria (US broadcast January 2017)

Post by Misfit » Mon February 20th, 2017, 2:24 am

Watched the latest episode. Even thought PBS broadcast time was 9PM Pacific, Xfinity/Comcast had it available at 4PM. I did enjoy it for the most part, but I am a train geek, especially the older trains. I do love the way the actor is portraying Albert, he is so devoted to Victoria, yet still wanting to make his own mark. Thumbs down on the downstairs aspect and the romance with Miss Skerrit and (I forget his name) the confectioner. I do like Albert's valet, but WTF was he doing in the throne room during an
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Re: Victoria (US broadcast January 2017)

Post by Misfit » Tue February 21st, 2017, 6:11 pm

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Re: Victoria (US broadcast January 2017)

Post by Susan » Tue February 21st, 2017, 9:03 pm

Thumbs down on the downstairs aspect and the romance with Miss Skerrit and (I forget his name) the confectioner. I do like Albert's valet, but WTF was he doing in the throne room during an...
I just finished watching the latest Victoria. I hate the storyline with Miss Skerrett and Mr. Francatelli who, like Miss Skerrett, was a real person. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_E ... rancatelli. He was Queen Victoria's chief cook for only two years (March 1840 - March 1842), so the series has him at the palace before the actual time. (Wedding was in February 1840 and Victoria's first child was born in November 1840.) It appeared to me that Miss Skerrett and Mr. Francatelli were having their little dinner in the Queen's rooms while she was away. That would never happen. And the palace kitchen certainly looks a lot less busy than the kitchen at Downton Abbey!

I'm currently reading the latest biography of Queen Victora by Julia Baird and last week I bought a book I've been eyeing for a while, Serving Victoria by Kate Hubbard, about Queen Victoria's household.There's quite a bit in the book about Marianne Skerrett and some information on Rudolf Löhlein, Albert's valet. As the personal servant to Albert and someone who was privy to very personal information, it is possible that Löhlein could have been at that announcement...if it actually happened. Löhlein was Albert's valet until Albert's death in 1861, and he was at Albert's deathbed. After Albert's death, Victoria appointed Löhlein as an "Extra Personal Attendant," the same title John Brown had, and he died in 1886.
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Re: Victoria (US broadcast January 2017)

Post by Misfit » Wed February 22nd, 2017, 1:27 am

It appeared to me that Miss Skerrett and Mr. Francatelli were having their little dinner in the Queen's rooms while she was away. That would never happen.
I wondered about that as well. Queen's chambers or elsewhere in the palace, I can't imagine that dinner could have happened.

Interesting notes about Albert's valet, what was he doing in the throne room when the pregnancy was announce to what I assume was the privy counsel?
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Re: Victoria (US broadcast January 2017)

Post by Misfit » Wed February 22nd, 2017, 2:05 am

Quotes I wonder about.

You've been had.

HRH (used repeatedly (and perhaps before its time?)

Just saying (really???)
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Re: Victoria (US broadcast January 2017)

Post by princess garnet » Wed February 22nd, 2017, 3:04 am

In the scene of Sir Robert Peel speaking with the Duke of Wellington and the Privy Council on the subject of a regency, they were standing in a rather familiar looking room. It had been used when Victoria spoke to the Privy Council at Kensington Palace in the 1st episode.

Program note to fellow US viewers: the season finale will air on March 5th. The Oscars are on this Sunday night (Feb. 26) so check your local PBS station listings for that night.

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Re: Victoria (US broadcast January 2017)

Post by Susan » Wed February 22nd, 2017, 3:32 am

Interesting notes about Albert's valet, what was he doing in the throne room when the pregnancy was announced to what I assume was the privy counsel?
I mentioned something about this above, but perhaps I was not clear. As the personal servant to Albert and someone who was privy to very personal information, it is possible that Löhlein the valet could have been at that announcement...if it actually happened. I guess it could have been the privy council, but I can't find anything in my books about any pregnancy announcement so I don't know how it was handled.
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Re: Victoria (US broadcast January 2017)

Post by Susan » Wed February 22nd, 2017, 3:45 am

HRH (used repeatedly (and perhaps before its time?)
HRH was used by then. HRH was and still is used to refer to British royals. If we were referring formally to Prince William, we would say, "His Royal Highness." If we were speaking with Prince William, we would say, "Your Royal Highness" and then call him, "Sir." See https://www.royal.uk/greeting-member-royal-family

The later Stuarts started using HH and HRH. Queen Mary II, elder surviving daughter of King James II, was styled Her Highness The Lady Mary before her marriage. Her father was not King before her marriage, so that is why she was styled HH Lady. Her younger sister Queen Anne had one son who survived her 17 pregnancies, but he died at age 11. He was styled His Royal Highness Prince William, Duke of Gloucester. The Hanovers who came to the British throne after the death of Queen Anne used HRH Prince/Princess. These websites have more information: Styles of the members of the British royal family http://www.heraldica.org/topics/britain ... ghness.htm and Styles of the members of the British royal family: Documents http://www.heraldica.org/topics/britain ... s_docs.htm
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Re: Victoria (US broadcast January 2017)

Post by Misfit » Wed February 22nd, 2017, 10:01 am

Susan wrote:
HRH (used repeatedly (and perhaps before its time?)
HRH was used by then. HRH was and still is used to refer to British royals. If we were referring formally to Prince William, we would say, "His Royal Highness." If we were speaking with Prince William, we would say, "Your Royal Highness" and then call him, "Sir." See https://www.royal.uk/greeting-member-royal-family

The later Stuarts started using HH and HRH. Queen Mary II, elder surviving daughter of King James II, was styled Her Highness The Lady Mary before her marriage. Her father was not King before her marriage, so that is why she was styled HH Lady. Her younger sister Queen Anne had one son who survived her 17 pregnancies, but he died at age 11. He was styled His Royal Highness Prince William, Duke of Gloucester. The Hanovers who came to the British throne after the death of Queen Anne used HRH Prince/Princess. These websites have more information: Styles of the members of the British royal family http://www.heraldica.org/topics/britain ... ghness.htm and Styles of the members of the British royal family: Documents http://www.heraldica.org/topics/britain ... s_docs.htm
TY. I just wasn't sure if it was shortened to HRH so early.
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