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The Jacobites

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The Jacobites

Post by diamondlil » Thu June 25th, 2009, 11:12 am

I learnt something new today and that was about the early attempts by the Jacobites to return the Stuarts to the throne. Through reading quite a few books over the years I am relatively familiar with the story of the events that led to Culloden, but these earlier attempts have eluded me.

So my question is anyone know any good books dealing with the earlier attempts, or even I guess the Jacobites during the whole of the 1700s
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Post by Misfit » Thu June 25th, 2009, 11:52 am

Only these two come immediately to mind

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The Jacobite Trilogy by DK Broster. I have this one languishing on a shelf somewhere long forgotten.

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Post by Kveto from Prague » Thu June 25th, 2009, 1:19 pm

[quote=""Misfit""]Only these two come immediately to mind

Devil Water Anya Seton

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The Jacobite Trilogy by DK Broster. I have this one languishing on a shelf somewhere long forgotten.

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Ive read the jacobite trilogy (bought it in Scotland, go figure). I dont remember too much about it, not bad nothing special. it was a bit annoying in that all of the characters on both sides were so honour bound that it came off as really unrealistic. I do remember it being fair to both sides, each had its heroes. and it has a very nice cover.

I reckon Nigel Tranter must have done some Jacobite stuff at some point.

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Post by Misfit » Thu June 25th, 2009, 1:40 pm

[quote=""keny from prague""]Ive read the jacobite trilogy (bought it in Scotland, go figure). I dont remember too much about it, not bad nothing special. it was a bit annoying in that all of the characters on both sides were so honour bound that it came off as really unrealistic. I do remember it being fair to both sides, each had its heroes. and it has a very nice cover.

I reckon Nigel Tranter must have done some Jacobite stuff at some point.

K[/quote]

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Post by Carla » Thu June 25th, 2009, 2:04 pm

Nigel Tranter's The Clansman covers Rob Roy MacGregor and his involvement in the 1715 Jacobite rising. It's the middle one of his MacGregor trilogy but I haven't read the other two. (Was bought it by a relative who had no idea it was part of a trilogy, and never got round to finding the others). I'd rate it around the middle of Tranter's range - not up to the Bruce Trilogy (which I really like), but a lot more engaging than some of his output. It's one of his earlier books and they tend to be his best, in my view. I think his writing got dustier with age. Worth a go, especially if you can get it from a library to find out if you get on with his style.
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Post by Susan » Thu June 25th, 2009, 2:07 pm

Here's a website for background information. The current Jacobite claimant is Francis II, Duke of Bavaria. He has no children, so his younger brother Max is the next claimant. Both Francis and Max are in their 70s. Interestingly, the third in line is Max's daughter Sophie who is married to Alois, the Hereditary Prince of Liechtenstein.

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Post by Misfit » Thu June 25th, 2009, 2:10 pm

Mention of Rob Roy MacGregor brings me to mind that Sir Walter Scott wrote a book called Rob Roy and I'm guessing it's about the same man. It is also languishing at the bottom of TBR.
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Post by Carla » Thu June 25th, 2009, 3:24 pm

[quote=""Misfit""]Mention of Rob Roy MacGregor brings me to mind that Sir Walter Scott wrote a book called Rob Roy and I'm guessing it's about the same man. It is also languishing at the bottom of TBR.[/quote]

It is. I've read it. It's in Scott's usual longwinded Victorian style (reasonably enough), and I remember I found it a bit of a slog. Also, if I remember rightly, the Jacobite rising and Rob Roy are more in the line of dramatic background and the main plot is about a couple of fictional characters who are only obliquely involved.
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Post by donroc » Thu June 25th, 2009, 3:55 pm

There is a little seen film starring David Niven in the title role, Bonnie Prince Charlie.
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Post by annis » Thu June 25th, 2009, 6:09 pm

There is an older novel by Ralph Arnold, called "Northern Lights: The Story of Lord Derwentwater" , about the 1715 Jacobite rising and its disastrous aftermath for the Derwentwater family.

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Just thought I'd add in 2 books mentioned by Ariadne elsewhere about the Glorious Revolution of 1688, which I think counts as an early Jacobite uprising, even if it was replacing one Stuart with another. It certainly marked the start of the whole cycle of Jacobite rebellions.

Meredith Stephure
"Civil Blood"

Ellis Dillon
"Wild Geese"
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