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New Tudors novel

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Susan
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Re: New Tudors novel

Post by Susan » Mon August 22nd, 2016, 2:22 am

You should quit now and read the NF book I am reading now, Tudor by Leanda de Lisle.
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Re: New Tudors novel

Post by SCW » Mon August 22nd, 2016, 11:05 am

Misfit read the Wideacre trilogy. Yes Beatrice is a complex character and Richard- well (you will hate him- I did). But I think they are better than most of her Tudor/York/Melusine novels.

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Re: New Tudors novel

Post by Misfit » Mon August 22nd, 2016, 11:43 pm

Thanks for the input ladies. Much appreciated.
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Re: New Tudors novel

Post by Misfit » Thu August 25th, 2016, 12:32 pm

Now I'm really confused and my sleep deprived mind is struggling with the wiki page on Douglas. Here we have a roomful of Scottish lords telling her this about her husband, that he wasn't just betrothed to Janet Stewart.
He was married to her, years ago, not betrothed. He was married. He pretended to marry you, and you have given him everything and now you want to give him Scotland.
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Re: New Tudors novel

Post by Susan » Thu August 25th, 2016, 4:39 pm

Misfit wrote:Now I'm really confused and my sleep deprived mind is struggling with the wiki page on Douglas. Here we have a roomful of Scottish lords telling her this about her husband, that he wasn't just betrothed to Janet Stewart.
He was married to her, years ago, not betrothed. He was married. He pretended to marry you, and you have given him everything and now you want to give him Scotland.
That's some confusing dialogue. The Scots royals are not my specialty (except for Mary, Queen of Scots). The only Janet Stewart I found is an illegitimate daughter of King James IV. She married Malcolm Fleming, 3rd Lord Fleming. I am assuming that Douglas is Archibald Douglas, Margaret Tudor's second husband. I see on his Wiki page that he had a daughter with Lady Jane of Traquair, daughter of the Laird of Traquair (have no idea who they are)

On Archibald Douglas' page at a royal genealogy website http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 1&tree=LEO , Douglas has a daughter with NN Stewart (No Name Stewart). Clicking on NN Stewart shows that this woman's father was James Stewart, 1st of Traquair which relates to what Wikipedia said. Also, note that next to NN Stewart's marriage box it says "union" and the other marriage boxes have dates. I'm guessing "union" means no marriage.
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Re: New Tudors novel

Post by Misfit » Thu August 25th, 2016, 11:30 pm

Susan wrote:
Misfit wrote:Now I'm really confused and my sleep deprived mind is struggling with the wiki page on Douglas. Here we have a roomful of Scottish lords telling her this about her husband, that he wasn't just betrothed to Janet Stewart.
He was married to her, years ago, not betrothed. He was married. He pretended to marry you, and you have given him everything and now you want to give him Scotland.
That's some confusing dialogue. The Scots royals are not my specialty (except for Mary, Queen of Scots). The only Janet Stewart I found is an illegitimate daughter of King James IV. She married Malcolm Fleming, 3rd Lord Fleming. I am assuming that Douglas is Archibald Douglas, Margaret Tudor's second husband. I see on his Wiki page that he had a daughter with Lady Jane of Traquair, daughter of the Laird of Traquair (have no idea who they are)

On Archibald Douglas' page at a royal genealogy website http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 1&tree=LEO , Douglas has a daughter with NN Stewart (No Name Stewart). Clicking on NN Stewart shows that this woman's father was James Stewart, 1st of Traquair which relates to what Wikipedia said. Also, note that next to NN Stewart's marriage box it says "union" and the other marriage boxes have dates. I'm guessing "union" means no marriage.
TY. I'm still just as confused as before, but more info to sort out. The woman Archibald married per PG I believe was a Traquiar, that name does come up as his true 'legal' wife and Margaret and her daughter are now in deep do. That's where I left off.
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Re: New Tudors novel

Post by Misfit » Fri August 26th, 2016, 1:13 am

I suppose that they know too. I imagine everyone in Edinburgh knows that the queen has been told that her husband has stolen her fortune and was all along married to another woman—the wife of his choice. Half of them will be laughing at this humiliation to an English princess, and the other half shrugging at the folly of women of any nation. They will say that women are not fit to rule. They will say that I have proved that women are not fit to rule.
If Margaret was somewhat sympathetic and not so self-centered...
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Re: New Tudors novel

Post by Misfit » Fri August 26th, 2016, 1:16 am

A delegation of the lords is coming from the council and I have to receive them in the presence chamber. I dress carefully, patting rice powder onto my swollen pink eyelids, a little red ochre on my pale cheeks and lips. I choose a white gown with Tudor green sleeves, I wear my silver slippers with the gold laces. I let them enter when I am seated on my throne with my ladies around me and my household servants ranged obediently against the walls. We put on as good a show as we can; but it is an empty show, like a canvas castle in a masque. I have no power, and they know it. I have no fortune, and they know who has it.
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Re: New Tudors novel

Post by Susan » Fri August 26th, 2016, 1:27 am

I see in a few places that Archibald Douglas made three marriages all to women made Margaret, which is probably the same thing you see. Here's another genealogy record for Archibald. http://thepeerage.com/p10149.htm It shows that he had three marriages as the other sites do and that he had an illegitimate child Janet Douglas, but there is no mother listed. Methinks Philippa is changing history a bit!
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Re: New Tudors novel

Post by MLE (Emily Cotton) » Fri August 26th, 2016, 3:06 am

Susan wrote: Methinks Philippa is changing history a bit!
Shocker! stop the presses! :mrgreen:

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