So here's what has been going on

[diamondlil]

Given the amount of questions that there have been about what happened at Historicalfiction.org, I thought I would lay out the events as I know of them, and then we can move forward in our new home!

When historicalfiction.org was started just under three years ago, the owner was an active participant and moderator. Just under a year later, the forum was sold without any warning to anyone to a new owner. Initially, there wasn't really a noticeable change, but as the time went on the response times kept on getting longer and longer, to the point where the monthly updates to the home page some times didn't happen for several months. That was not the only frustrating thing. As none of the moderators had administration rights, we could not even set up any new sections in the forum like we wanted to let alone anything else.

Then, in July or August last year the site was sold again to a UK based company. We didn't actually find out until some time later, and so immediately started trying to contact the new owners to ask them to give us at least access to the forums so that we could have some control. One of our biggest fears was that something would happen to the forum and that we wouldn't know what was going on - fears that turned out to be justified in the end.

In the time since the forum was sold again, we have had one contact with the new owners, despite the fact that we have been emailing them constantly since at least January, and to the point where we have been trying to phone them as well (my phone bill is looking a little bigger than usual given the amount of times I have phoned the UK from Australia). Every time I have phoned them over the last six to eight weeks, the contact that we have was either in meetings, not available or out - it is hard not to reach the conclusion that he doesn't want to talk to us - and there was no one else available to help us. More emails, both directly to the contact and to the general email address have been sent, but still no response.

Then we get to the events of Friday. Yet more emails, and more phone calls and still I could not make contact with the owners. The thing is that even if we did manage to get through to someone, it would still be just a temporary fix for now because given our experiences over the last year basically, I can't help but think that in the long term things were not going to get any better.

My main reason for telling you all of this is to reassure you that the decision to start this forum is not a spur of the moment decision. It is something that has been brewing for a very long time. It is very upsetting to lose so much information but hopefully with everyone's assistance we will be able to build up a bigger and better resource! We are off to a great start.

I am not sure how much we will be able to recover, even through cached Google searches etc, but if people have specific threads that they would like to try to recover then certainly feel free.

Now that the mods own this site, we now have the flexibility to make the changes that we want to make, without having to wait for someone else to do it for us. We have some ideas that we are working on, but for the time being we are just trying to concentrate on getting this place up and running and then we will try to make it a bit prettier etc!

We are so grateful to everyone who contacted us wanting to know what was going on, and offering support. We hope that you enjoy our new home and we look forward to continuing to discuss great books with you all, and sharing with you all!

[EC2]

Many thanks for setting all that out Marg. What a hassle. You - and the other moderators have busy day jobs and lives to lead, and I do very much appreciate all that you're doing and the time it's taking out of your lives. Thank you!
From a selfish viewpoint I am over the moon to find the forum back up and running. In the interests of diplomacy I won't say anything about the former forum owner's behaviour!

Susan (formerly EC and now EC2)

[pat]

Thanks Marg. Shame it had to come to this, but at least now you mods are in full control. It is sad that the new owners wouldnt even speak to you, downright rude.

xx

[Leyland]

Thanks for sharing the information, Marg. It sounds like you and Susan H, along with other support, have salvaged something wonderful from a train wreck! My sincere appreciation is wrapped all over this post.

I look forward to the changes you plan to make and intend to have fun with the forum for months and months to come. And pretty is good - I love green, so how but some greenness when y'all pretty up the site?


Liz (formerly RacingGreen -because my favorite toy is a British Leyland matchbox car ;))

[Ash]

Thanks Marg! I always appreciate not being kept in the dark (I am indeed in the mushroom category at work!). Its weird that the owners couldn't just be upfront with you, but its wonderful that you guys were able to see what was coming and to be able to put it back together. And yeah, we'll make this work!

I am not among the computer literate here, but if there is something I can help with do let me know!

[Rowan]

Please allow me to add my sincere appreciation to those who have posted before me. I didn't think I'd become so attached to the forum, til it wasn't there. :o

I'm sorry to learn of all the hassle you went through, but the first person who sold it started the ball-of-rudeness going by not telling everyone that the site was being sold in the first place. Everything else just snowballed on top. :rolleyes:

As I mentioned in my roll-call post, I have experience with the technical side of forums as well as graphics. I'd be happy to help out in that regard.

Rowan (formerly Lady Sorbus)

[Misfit]

I'm adding my thanks to the others for all the hard work you and BB have put into this and very happy to see everyone back posting.

[MLE]

I do computer graphics too, Marg, altho I am not as up t- speed on the internet 2 stuff as I am going to be in a year -- if you want a selection of appropriate images, or you need them adjusted, resampled, whatever -- I can pretty much do about anything you want with portraits or photos, or blend them together.

I hope new HF enthusiasts will be continually joining and commenting, so this will be a resource for writers to get a feel for the various tastes and dislikes of a variety of readers. Also for editors/publishers/agents to consult, to help them do a better job producing what the HF demographic will respect.

Some threads on the old forum were really good for that, among them, the ones that gave a range on how much explicit sex is preferred and when it becomes a liability; the several on historical authenticity; the thread on villains, on sympathetic main characters, on how long a book should be, on whether a given reader preferred real historical characters or fictional ones in a historical setting --- The old forum was a serious resource on that.

Over time, I got a feel for what each of the regular participants liked and didn't like, as I'm sure others got a feel for me in the same area. What a shame to lose that!

But those threads tended to drop to the bottom in the old forum. Perhaps we could have a 'reader's resource' section that stayed up? Maybe I'll go start some polls.

[Leyland]

But those threads tended to drop to the bottom in the old forum. Perhaps we could have a 'reader's resource' section that stayed up?

Excellent idea, MLE. Those lost posts represent nearly as great a loss in resource value as did the reviews. And they did tend to get buried in the general areas. Perhaps a reader's preferences section would be a good thing to start.

[SonjaMarie]

Thanks for letting us know Marg, I'm just so happy to a forum again! Mega Huggles too all my friends!

SM

[LCW]

I too want to thank the mods for everything they did. I know I was lost without my regular morning check in!! I admin an online forum and we've had to restart elsewhere too. It's ALOT of work!! So thanks so much!! And yes, with time this site will be even better, prettier, and with even more bells and whistles! :)

[Catherine Delors]

I will announce the news on my blog.

From a selfish point of view, this is still better for me. I had joined HF.org late and was stuck in the depths of the proletariat. Now I am a "Junior Member" like everyone else (except for the administrators/moderators, of course.)

Liberte, egalite, fraternite, as we say in France.

[Misfit]

I will announce the news on my blog.

From a selfish point of view, this is still better for me. I had joined HF.org late and was stuck in the depths of the proletariat. Now I am a "Junior Member" like everyone else (except for the administrators/moderators, of course.)

Liberte, egalite, fraternite, as we say in France.

It's so funny seeing all these junior members. BTW Catherine I was on your blog the other day and started to post a comment and I got sidetracked. Did you know Dumas wrote a six book series on the Revolution? Let me know if you're interested and I can list the books out for you in order.

[Michelle2]

Gosh I had no idea it was bought and sold so many times since Becky first came up with the idea. Glad everything is settled now and thanks for all your hard work!

[Leyland]

I Now I am a "Junior Member" like everyone else

Catherine brings to mind a question - where do we go after Junior level? Senior sounds logical, and then what? Graduate school? ;)

[LCW]

I liked the old rankings, myself. It encouraged participation too. If you want to be royalty instead of a peasant then post alot! :D

[SonjaMarie]

I miss the fact that I had over 2500 posts and say the title "Royalty" next to my name, it kinda blows to have to start from the beginning again on how many posts you have.

SM

[Divia]

What happened to us? I only found this place becuase Misfit put a comment on one of my reviews???

What happened

[Michelle2]

Hey Divs! Long time no see!

[Divia]

You have no idea the horror I went through for the past few days without having this site. :o

I miss my old post count :(

[cookie]

Thanks for the info Marg.. hopefully now that princess garnet has posted the link at PG's , others will follow.

[Divia]

Thanks for all the hard work mods.

While I understand this is a huge blow to our coummunity I think this is far better in the long run. Now the mods/admins can update the information on the main page, and we can be current. There is some stablity now, which I guess there wasnt before.

Its sad what happened to us, but now I think things are better.

[EC2]

I liked the old rankings, myself. It encouraged participation too. If you want to be royalty instead of a peasant then post alot! :D

Yeah, I liked that! I was very nearly royalty when it went pear shaped! One more week and I've had had a crown;)

[Divia]

If I remember correctly from my admin days on another MB I think its something the admins can fix. But I'm sure there are bigger fish to fry right now. :D But yeah I liked em too.

I was in the top 10 of posting! :o

[Melisende]

Thanks for keeping us posted - I wondered initially if it was just me - using the comp at work instead of actually working. :eek:

Glad we have a forum back - now to update links!

[Melisende]

I miss the threads - no chance of retrieving any??

[Divia]

I dont think the mods have that power. I think some are going to see what comes up using a google search, but I think its a lost cause. Its sad. We did so much work for it all to go bye bye. Still, now that things are more stable I think we can build this place up to be bigger and better :)

[JaneConsumer]

I'd like to add my thanks and appreciation, too. I can't offer help, but I'm willing to pay a membership fee to support the work you guys do.

Royalty wasn't any more than a pipe dream for me! :p

[Divia]

I'm on heman.org (huge masters of the universe site, yes I'm letting my inner geek out! ) Anyway, they have been asking for donations to help with the site. So its not uncommon for that to happen. If we need to donate a little to help, I'll be more than willing to help (after my first paycheck ;) )

[SonjaMarie]

If you guys joined Google Adsense (like we had on the last site), I think more of us would be willing to click since we know it's going towards you guys for this site and not the owners or whoever, at least I know I would.

SM

[MLE]

It seems that advertising historical novels on this site would be a no-brainer for generating a little support money. I know those ads don't generate all that much, but surely a forum aimed at a narrow target audience (HF readers) with many members gives an author more exposure than a blog?

Or at least it could as it becomes a better resource for more and more people.

[Divia]

Are we in need of $$ here?

I really hate ads but if its the only way to keep this site running then yeah I guess we do what we must.

They also do little things over that the .org. If you donate eh 50 bucks then you can get a commission or something by one of the artists. Here I guess if you donate 50 bucks you could always get a signed book or something. That's if the authors would be willing to do that.

[Vanessa]

Thanks for all your hard work, Marg! I felt quite lost!! It's nice to see familiar names/avatars (even if they've changed a little!!).

How bizarre and rude that no-one has returned your emails! I hope no-one has died or anything terrible - it would seem a bit strange that there was no contact at all. But 'nowt so queer as folk' as they say! As I was saying on another thread, I belong to another site which kept crashing due to hackers, so they had to set a completely new board up. It's amazing how quickly it's all built up again. I'm sure it'll be the same here.

[diamondlil]

Not dead - just always in meetings, out of the office or otherwise unavailable!

[diamondlil]

Are we in need of $$ here?

I really hate ads but if its the only way to keep this site running then yeah I guess we do what we must.

They also do little things over that the .org. If you donate eh 50 bucks then you can get a commission or something by one of the artists. Here I guess if you donate 50 bucks you could always get a signed book or something. That's if the authors would be willing to do that.

Boswell and I are tossing some ideas around about this kind of thing. There'll be more about it in due course!

[Cerridwen]

Thanks Marg, and sorry to hear of the great difficulties you had I'm sure this forum will be bigger and better.

Well done!

[Ash]

Be careful with making dues. Donations, great, but once they are no longer voluntary, the site suddenly looses steam and members. I've seen that happen on two forums I've been on. I prefer ads over dues, FWIW, tho I would gladly make a donation if that would help

[Divia]

Hmm, what about a flea market where we sell books that we have and all the donations go to the website. We could post the book here. I'm just throwing random thoughts out there..who knows if they are good or not.;)

[amyb]

Thanks Marg! I really appreciate everyone's hard work that went into this new site. I love it already and can't wait to see how pretty it looks once all of you talented people get a hold of it!

[tsjmom]

Thank you to all those who put our new forum together. I appreciate your hard work.

[diamondlil]

Be careful with making dues. Donations, great, but once they are no longer voluntary, the site suddenly looses steam and members. I've seen that happen on two forums I've been on. I prefer ads over dues, FWIW, tho I would gladly make a donation if that would help


Making dues is not one of the options that we are discussing. This is a place to have fun and we don't want to have any kind of compulsion at all about anything!

[Divia]

I'm glad to hear that :) I'll gladly donate what I can, but dues are hard for some people.

[Margaret]

I'll add my thanks to everyone else's. I was awfully impressed that you and the moderators were able to get this new site up and running so quickly, Marg. If you had already been mulling over the possibility, that helps explain how you were able to do it. Thank goodness! I'm so, so, so glad the moderators now have full control of the site. With a site like this, it's important that the people who own and operate it genuinely love historical fiction and care that the site functions properly. It's sad to lose all the old posts, but it makes so much difference to have the active moderators in full control, so in the end, I think we are all much better off.

[Spitfire]

Thanks for filling us in on what happened. I am so happy to be back with you all. It felt awful to be cut off without any explanation or directions to find anybody. So glad to be back!!:D

[Dani]

Marg thansk for the explianation i had just found the old one and i had spent many hours reading the post before it dissapaeread however i am glad that you and the mods got this up and running I no longer feel "lost"

[Ash]

Making dues is not one of the options that we are discussing. This is a place to have fun and we don't want to have any kind of compulsion at all about anything!

Very glad to hear that!

[MLE]

well, they finally banned me from the old forum. I popped in this AM to tell eigon and andromeda where we were, no go. EC is still posting, tho.

[Misfit]

I saw your post and I posted two as well as did EC one. All deleted now. Guess I'll mosey over and see if I'm banned.

[Misfit]

I'm history. How about you EC? I did get a PM off to Andromeda Organa and Whisper who were online today. Eigon's already here now.

[EC2]

I'm history. How about you EC? I did get a PM off to Andromeda Organa and Whisper who were online today. Eigon's already here now.

Just PM'd Eigon (glad you're here!) and Andromeda and Stevent. Haven't tried out the post board since my Rosamund Clifford post - which has disappeared!

[sweetpotatoboy]

I'm still allowed there. I see there are still people posting there and new members joining and introducing themselves.
Should I post a message?

(I also want to nab my reviews before they disappear).

[Misfit]

I PM'd Stevent as well this morning. The comments we post seem to last an hour or two tops before being deleted.

[EC2]

I just noticed there's an administrator thread from Miranda on the old forum?
It says Today and that historical fiction discussion should be kept to a minumum? Or am I reading this all wrong and it's an old post and I've finally gone bonkers in my menopause!

[EC2]

Well that's interesting. The moderator thread I saw has gone now. The person who'd posted there was called Miranda, Princess of Good intentions and there were over a thousand posts logged to her. The suggestion was that Historical fiction not be talked about and that the forum be merged - not sure with what. But it's disappered now.

[SonjaMarie]

I'm not banned....yet, I'm PM'ing Doddiemoemoe.

SM

[donroc]

I donate to AW so I would not have any problems doing so here.

Would I then receive the title of Emperor? :D

[Misfit]

I just noticed there's an administrator thread from Miranda on the old forum?
It says Today and that historical fiction discussion should be kept to a minumum? Or am I reading this all wrong and it's an old post and I've finally gone bonkers in my menopause!


No I saw it too. Looked like maybe one of the original moderators?

[boswellbaxter]

A couple of the original moderators have evidently stuck with the old board. Which is fine--whatever direction they take it in, there's room for both boards in cyberspace. (Though naturally I prefer our board.)

[Misfit]

A couple of the original moderators have evidently stuck with the old board. Which is fine--whatever direction they take it in, there's room for both boards in cyberspace. (Though naturally I prefer our board.)


I prefer it here too, but then I'm banned from the old one :):p:o

[MLE]

what is the difference between 'admin' and 'moderator'? Miranda used to me a moderator, but on that post, she was admin. Could it be that she bought the old forum to get it up and running again? I somebody over there would just tell me what was going on, they would find I'm always happy to cooperate with someone of good will.

[SonjaMarie]

I see Wendall posted over there, wonder if he'll pop up over here too.

SM

[boswellbaxter]

what is the difference between 'admin' and 'moderator'? Miranda used to me a moderator, but on that post, she was admin. Could it be that she bought the old forum to get it up and running again? I somebody over there would just tell me what was going on, they would find I'm always happy to cooperate with someone of good will.

An administrator isn't necessarily an owner--it's just a matter of being granted access to certain functions by the owner of the site. Diamondlil and I are both administrators and owners, but we could make a third person an administrator without him/her being an owner.

An administrator has access to functions that a moderator doesn't. That was the problem at the old site--the moderators couldn't do things like create new categories, which wouldn't have been a problem if someone else was doing it for us, but no one was.

[JaneConsumer]

I prefer it here too, but then I'm banned from the old one

What did I miss? Do tell!

[Misfit]

I see Wendall posted over there, wonder if he'll pop up over here too.

SM

Someone want to drop him a PM? I'm banned and have no access to even mail anymore. Jane, so far myself, MLE and EC have been banned. Probably for daring to invite recent posters over here. Our posts regarding same have been deleted quite promptly as well.

If I'm not mistaken, BB and DL are no longer mods there. Or am I miss reading the profile?

[JaneConsumer]

Jane, so far myself, MLE and EC have been banned.

Oh for heaven's sake. Somebody needs to get a life.

I just went over there and scouted around. I see "banned" beneath the screen names for you guys. What a joke!

Well, whatever, wish 'em well and move on.

[Divia]

why would someone be banned? WTH. Anyway I shot him a pm.

[diamondlil]

No she didn't buy it as far as I know. The new owners finally did something and gave her administration rights which means that she can make changes to forums etc. You know....the access that we had been asking for for months.

I am not 100% sure what Miranda's intentions are, but it looks as though she intends to keep it running, which is fine. It was never the intention to create a split, but it looks as though might be what has happened. As Boswell said earlier in the thread, there is room in cyberspace for more than one board.

I guess people will have the choice of whether they want to post here, there or at both places. I will be staying here.

[Divia]

I pmed the new person named Gia to let them know that the new forum was here. I also pmed a few more. If anyone has a list give it to me and i'll pm those that were on the old site but not on the new one.

[Misfit]

I think Lauren/MLE PM'd a bunch yesterday. Any division between boards is their own fault -- if they'd only communicated instead of just shutting it down like that. What'd they expect? I'm perfectly happy here and any way I'm banned :o

[Divia]

LOL You're banned. You bad girl!

I'm waiting for it, but I dont know if it will happen unless I start to remove posts or something cause isnt that what you did.

[diamondlil]

It's a bit strange to see such faithful posters banned on a site!

[Divia]

Absolute power and all that jazz. She probably doesnt want you guys muscling in on her gig or something. Of course I could be wrong.

[Spitfire]

What have you all been banned for? Referring members to this site? They should at least expect that with all the unprofessional conduct that they have been conducting! I for myself haven't even checked out the old site, I am moving foreward baby, not looking behind!

[Divia]

Well before people were talking about deleting their posts. I wonder if that did it? :confused:

[Kailana]

Howdy,

So, apparently people have some questions, and I can now answer them! As some people know, I was a mod at the 'other' site, but with life and not really reading much historical fiction this year I was pretty much a dead poster! I was out of the loop because I would flip through the discussions and see that I didn't really have anything to say. It is what happens when you haven't read any of the books discussed on the forums... Anyway, so I didn't even notice the site went down because I was not really around. I think I read it on a blog, Marg's probably. And, I rejoined over here and I have been posting!

But, the other day Miranda (yes, you are right, she used to be a mod at HFF and now she is an admin) emailed me and told me that I was apparently an admin over at HFF now. This surprised me because I was not even made aware of it. It also seemed a bit silly because everyone is over here and who would want two historical fiction forums! But, apparently, being admin means that we can do what we want, which is what Marg and Susan wanted all along. So, contrary to what people think, it is not going to be in competition with this place. We can't change the name, but we can change the format. We are just going to make it a general forum to cover all forms of books.

So, um, there is no split... Well, not on my end anyway! I post here, see post count, and I will post over there! As it stands right now, I am just helping Miranda change things over and if things work out, things work out. It is not a competition, I quite like Marg and Boswell, and I have no problems with anything.

Also, Miranda did mention she temporarily banned a couple people. I didn't have internet access yesterday, so I am not totally sure on the details. I am just catching up now.

Anyway, so there is what is going on. I know people wanted answers earlier than this, but, like I said, I was just made admin and then we had to decide if we were going to carry the site on or say no. So, I hope there is no animosity. It was nothing underhanded or sneaky.

I hope this makes sense... I was going to save it for later, but read this forum and decided it really couldn't be held off, so I am typing rather fast.

--- Kelly (waving the white flag!)

[boswellbaxter]

Thanks for posting, Kaliana. No animosity on this end either. I'm looking forward to seeing what the revamped site looks like.

[MLE]

I'm still allowed there. I see there are still people posting there and new members joining and introducing themselves.
Should I post a message?

(I also want to nab my reviews before they disappear).
too late, SPB. You've been banned.
I'm not interested in deleting any of my stuff, altho I would like copies of the more interesting posts over on this forum. Mostly a certain disappointment with the forum owners going on here, and a desire to see those who have missed the forum discussion not get 'left out' and wondering where everybody went. I'd just as soon see the work we all put into the old forum still be accessible.

But I'm darned if I know how they are going to do general book discussion under the name 'historicalfiction.org'.

[Misfit]

too late, SPB. You've been banned.
I'm not interested in deleting any of my stuff, altho I would like copies of the more interesting posts over on this forum. Mostly a certain disappointment with the forum owners going on here, and a desire to see those who have missed the forum discussion not get 'left out' and wondering where everybody went. I'd just as soon see the work we all put into the old forum still be accessible.

But I'm darned if I know how they are going to do general book discussion under the name 'historicalfiction.org'.

"she temporarily banned a couple people"

So far I count myself, MLE, EC and now sweetpotatoboy and that's more than a couple and while I can see MLE EC and myself ruffling a few feathers deleting posts and dropping the new website I can't fathom why SPB was banned.

Whatever floats their boat,but it's still such a mystery.

[Perdita]

too late, SPB. You've been banned.
I'm not interested in deleting any of my stuff, altho I would like copies of the more interesting posts over on this forum. Mostly a certain disappointment with the forum owners going on here, and a desire to see those who have missed the forum discussion not get 'left out' and wondering where everybody went. I'd just as soon see the work we all put into the old forum still be accessible.

But I'm darned if I know how they are going to do general book discussion under the name 'historicalfiction.org'.

Good question about historicalfiction.org. I just queried it on their forum

[sweetpotatoboy]

WTF!! For what reason??

I don't think I ever even got round to posting any message at all about moving to the new forum!! (I started typing one at one point but never actually posted it as others had already done so...)

So the only way anyone could know was by reading messages I'd posted HERE...

The truth is that, if both forums remained active and vibrant, I might have been tempted to contribute to both.

OK, it says my ban will be lifted on 19 September. Reason for ban: None. Great. Very mature.

[EC2]

I wasn't aware that I'd been banned - must have happened overnight. I'm not even going to try and post there any more.
I think the whole thing has been handled really badly. If we had all been told at the beginning what was happening or been treated with more courtesy and less ignorance then it might have been a different story. Sweet Potato Boy, your ban is ridiculous - but in keeping with what's been happening so far.:(

[Misfit]

I wasn't aware that I'd been banned - must have happened overnight. I'm not even going to try and post there any more.
I think the whole thing has been handled really badly. If we had all been told at the beginning what was happening or been treated with more courtesy and less ignorance then it might have been a different story. Sweet Potato Boy, your ban is ridiculous - but in keeping with what's been happening so far.:(


It is unfortunate they've acted this way, and whether the bans are lifted or not it's not going to feel like "home" over there again. What would they expect us to do, leave others like Nona, Spitfire and Eigon languishing in lala land not knowing where everyone went? Geez.

BTW, Kailana no hard feelings on this end :)

I see there's been some changes overnight, and threads have been started (but no postings) for other genres. Odd response to Perdita's question about keeping the historicalfiction.org, more of a non-answer. Oh well. This is home now.

[Divia]

Well apparently this is still the ONLY HF site around because she is changing hitoricalfiction.org

Heya All, there has been some confusion about what is happening at the site after some recent downtime due to a server change. The site is still here, however we plan on becoming a more general fiction site, with the opportunity to discuss all types of literature, as well as Historical Fiction.
Watch this Space.

Sorry, but I joined HF.org so I could discuss HF. Oh well, just another reason to stay here. Not that I was going back anyway. :D Although it is odd that she is keeping the name historicalfiction.org when other genres are being talked about.

[LCW]

I too joined a site because I'm interested in HF, not just fiction in general. I love that we have "off topic" threads and places to discuss and debate other subjects but the main reason I joined was for HF. So did most of the people that were on the other site I'd imagine. I guess they expect to get a lot more members interested in general fiction. Seems weird with the name "historicalfiction . org".

And banning people is not something to take lightly or to do "temporarily". That's childish and immature. What did they expect when a forum with such a devoted group of posters just up and vanishes in the blink of an eye? It's just silly and doesn't bode well for the future of the "old" board!

[Divia]

Well it is what it is. I know I wont be giong back..unless I'm pming people to tell them to come here :D

[Misfit]

Well it is what it is. I know I wont be giong back..unless I'm pming people to tell them to come here :D


I'll lay odds you're the next one to go down for that comment :D:D

They've got a ways to go, anytime I go look at it the only users online are one of us.

[Spitfire]

I'll lay odds you're the next one to go down for that comment :D:D

They've got a ways to go, anytime I go look at it the only users online are one of us.

I'm just waiting to get banned too! I have been pming some to come over here too!:D

[SonjaMarie]

I think some of the bans have been lifted, I didn't see the word on your name Misfit.

SM

[Misfit]

I think some of the bans have been lifted, I didn't see the word on your name Misfit.

SM


You're right, they're gone now. Hmmmm.

[Kailana]

Yeah, she lifted the bans. I think all of them.

As to the name, it still works because there is a large section dedicated just to historical fiction and then there is the rest of the discussions... It's the only thing that couldn't be changed. I think the actual name of the forums might change eventually, but there are some issues with that that go back to the very first owners, so not sure.

I am of the opinion that forums should be fun, so if we have some posters and discussion, that is all that really matters at the end of the day.

[cookie]

Why don't they just close that board and go elsewhere... as done with this board?
I don't understand why they would be banning people and going to all that trouble when they could just start again... but then I don't know the full story or the politics behind this split.

[Divia]

Agreed.

Why not close it down, start up a new MB with a NEW url and new name. That way people won't get confused. I mean if I went to a board that had a URL historicalfiction.org I would assume that it would be about HF and not other genres.

but maybe they dont wnat to change it for whatever reason.