the old forum is back, but...

[MLE]

When I posted a thread telling about the new one, it was deleted within minutes, but not before Ellenjane found us again. My suggestion is that everybody go edit their last posts on all the threads to give the info on the new forum. I wouldn't use the link function; makes it too easy for the old forum owners to track the posts and erase them.

[Misfit]

Glad to see ellenjane found us. I'll post a comment and see how long it lasts as well.

[Tanzanite]

Misfit-

i went and checked and 5 minutes ago it was there; now it's gone.

[Vanessa]

I can still access it. Maybe worth waiting for a while before posting a link to the new site again, as I see your post has been removed, Misfit.

[Misfit]

Didn't take very long did it? I was going to delete my old reviews as I have them on Amazon but apparently you can't.

[EC2]

I've just posted a couple of notification of move threads.

[boswellbaxter]

Didn't take very long did it? I was going to delete my old reviews as I have them on Amazon but apparently you can't.

I was able to delete one of my reviews by using "Edit Post." That may be because I was a moderator, though.

[Vanessa]

Epiphany Poststopper appears not to be around at the moment!!:D Well, they weren't a few moment ago when I looked.

[MLE]

okay, try this, those of you with signatures: I changed mine to 'now posting at historicalfictiononline.com' and every post I've ever had a signature on now reflects the change.

Unfortunately, those who don't have signatures can't create one and have the pre-signatue posts updated.

[Misfit]

Good suggestion. Should we PM members we haven't seen migrate over here?

[LCW]

I changed my signature over there to notify of the move and spelled out the website. We'll see how long it lasts!

[Vanessa]

So have I, nicely enboldened and enlarged!!!!:D

[ellenjane]

Wow - I guess I checked at just the right time.

I added the URL here in my signature line, but it doesn't show up on all my old posts. I made a post in the "What Are You Reading" thread, though.

[MLE]

(regarding Misfit's comment of pm ing former forum members) that's what I'm doing. But it will take a while, and I'm only hitting the ones I recognize. How about I take the ones from A-C and somebody else start the others? It will only let you send one message every sixty seconds, so you can't go too fast. Here's what I am sending:
Title:new forum location
Hi all,
The forum has moved due to this one vanishing without warning. The old folks are now all posting over at historicalfictiononline,com, our new home.
Hope to see you there!
MLE (Lauren Sylvan)

[Leyland]

Wow, check out EC's posts on the old forum about the move. She's good!

[LoisAnn]

A suggestion for those of us who don't have reviews located in other places and/or stored on a hard drive ...

Go to the old site, copy and then zip to this new, wonderful site and paste in the appropriate spot.

[Margaret]

It should be possible for people to retrieve their reviews now by highlighting, copying, and pasting.

[SonjaMarie]

I just edited my sig on there to saying I'm now posting here.

I see Ephipany Solutions is now a member of the forum. I'm sure they're not happy with us, but who cares!

SM

[Leyland]

I see Ephipany Solutions is now a member of the forum. I'm sure they're not happy with us, but who cares!SM

Poor customer service results in loss of customers, doncha know.

[Misfit]

Poor customer service results in loss of customers, doncha know.


That's an understatement. I followed EC's example and deleted my reviews -- you can't delete the post but you sure can delete the words that are in it :D

[SonjaMarie]

Poor customer service results in loss of customers, doncha know.

But of course! I'll only go over there to see if anyone poor souls have lost their way there and to see what's happening over there now and then.

But this is now "home"!

SM

[Perdita]

Wow, the old forum looks like a ghost ship now!

[Misfit]

EC's posts have now disappeared. Ellenjane's is still standing.

[MLE]

just curious, who is moderating that forum now? Or do they mean to run it without a moderator?

[Misfit]

Good question. I notice this Epiphany Solutions is logging on and off frequently.

[Leyland]

Good question. I notice this Epiphany Solutions is logging on and off frequently.

So, do you think they've had an epiphany yet? ;)

[ellenjane]

EC's posts have now disappeared. Ellenjane's is still standing.

Looks like it's been removed now. The signatures are still standing, though.

[SonjaMarie]

Someone needs to go grab LoveHistory, they just posted.

SM

[Misfit]

Maybe since they were so dense to just shut it down without communicating with anyone they might be slow on the draw here as well :D:p:)

I've just tried three posts over there and they're disappearing immediately.

[MLE]

Someone needs to go grab LoveHistory, they just posted.

SM
I pm'd her a while ago, and just put a follow-up in the threas she posted. We just got a new member, LoveHistory, is that you?

[Misfit]

Looks like Lovehistory is back, as well as Lady of the Forest.

[EC2]

Looks like Lovehistory is back, as well as Lady of the Forest.

Hooray! Welcome back from the wilderness!:D:D:D

[MLE]

So I've finished going through the list, sending pms to anybody with more than 5 posts. Some of them will still have that hooked up to their email notification system.
I think I might have hit one or two that are already here -- the brain was turning into cottage cheese by the end of the process.

[MLE]

meanwhile, I see that the admins have taken down all but one of my posts.

[Misfit]

So I've finished going through the list, sending pms to anybody with more than 5 posts. Some of them will still have that hooked up to their email notification system.
I think I might have hit one or two that are already here -- the brain was turning into cottage cheese by the end of the process.

Good job. So far my posts are still there, except for the ones I tried today :)

[MLE]

I meant today's posts -- the old ones, with that new and informative signature line, are still in place.

[Misfit]

It's getting to be quite an entertaining game, seeing who we can nab with a new post before it disappears. I'm sure they're reading this discussion here as well. :D

[diamondlil]

We may have to be a little careful.

[Divia]

I dont think I'll delete any of my posts but I can see why some would want to. Their call. I'm not that motivated actually. :D

[diamondlil]

I'm tempted, but I don;t think I can be bothered given how many there are.

[Margaret]

It doesn't look like anyone is making new posts there, except for those of us who have posted the rapidly disappearing notices about the new forum. The most recent post appears to have been one by Divia on August 21, before the site went dark. It seems weird that it would have been so hard for the moderators to contact the owner to get the home page updated, and now the site is back up and obviously being "tended to" by someone.

[Michelle2]

Glad some others are trickling in!

[JaneConsumer]

It seems that those who posted the new address in their signature lines haven't had their messages removed yet.

[LCW]

I dont think I'll delete any of my posts but I can see why some would want to. Their call. I'm not that motivated actually. :D

Hehehe! Me neither! I thought about it but then thought about everything I could be doing instead! :D

[Juniper]

So I've finished going through the list, sending pms to anybody with more than 5 posts. Some of them will still have that hooked up to their email notification system.
I think I might have hit one or two that are already here -- the brain was turning into cottage cheese by the end of the process.


It worked for me- thankyou for the PM! I was so confused about what had happened to the forum- and am still slightly confused to be honest! What happened? I was relieved to receive the PM telling me about this place.

[diamondlil]

There's a thread here (http://www.historicalfictiononline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29) that goes some way towards explaining what went on.

[Margaret]

They may be monitoring this thread.

[Cuchulainn]

So I take it that the general consensus is that people will now use this site to discuss historical fiction related topics?

[diamondlil]

That's certainly my intention, although it is probably fair to say that I have a vested interest.

[Ludmilla]

I just found the link from someone's signature on the old site when I happened to notice it was up today. I was a relatively new poster at the other board. Glad I found ya'll again!

[Vanessa]

Hi Ludmilla.

[Misfit]

I see Spitfire just joined. Any one heard from Wendallpauls?

[Spitfire]

I am so glad you found me. I was just sick when the Historical Fiction site was suspended. Looking foreward to reading and posting with all of you again!

[EC2]

So glad you found us too Spitfire! Welcome back!:D

[Margaret]

I notice we have 109 members already. Way to go!

[MLE]

make that 110. Hi Ike, I presume you were markemoore?

[Mara]

Right, added the link to this forum to my signature. Every little helps.

[Misfit]

I keep seeing an Adriane (sp?) signed in on the old board. Has she joined us?

[diamondlil]

Yep...Ariadne is here.

[Ariadne]

Yep, I checked in on the old board today, wondering if any posts showed up there. Doesn't look like it. I suspect the owners got the message...

[Mara]

Is Dobie here? She only joined in August and I've just come across her when checking my old posts.

[wendallpauls]

I am confused. I read Marg's post on what is going on from her vantage point, but I still don't get it. Are the new, new owners (I wasn't even aware that Jim... whateverhisnamewas wasn't the 'owner' of the site - whatever that means) are these new owners trying to do exactly... what?

Oh, and thanks for the PMs telling me about the changes. When I saw the old site was back up and running, I thought it was just a glitch.

[Misfit]

WP, glad to see you here. There's another thread in the chat forum that might answer your questions better.

[Divia]

Wp glad to see you made it over to the new board :)

[wendallpauls]

I'm glad to be here, and I will search out that other thread; but I'm still at a loss as to understand what exactly is going on. As usual I seem to be a step behind everyone else. This is a strange business, the world of Internet websites. If I may ask the dumb question here (if I haven't done so already) what's to keep this site from suffering the same fate as the other?

[diamondlil]

Because the administrators own the site so we are not relying on anyone else to do anything for us.

[wendallpauls]

Because the administrators own the site so we are not relying on anyone else to do anything for us.

Thanks Marg. I wish Rebecca had kept control of the old site, rather than sell it to whatshisname, and then whatever happened over there wouldn't have happened.

[diamondlil]

Don't totally agree with you there. Rebecca wanted to sell and that is fine. It would have been nice if the members had of been given the option to buy it all that time ago, but it is a long time gone now.

[wendallpauls]

What is past is certainly past, and we can't go forward without leaving it there. It would have been nice though if she had given it to the members, or sold to someone who actually carried an interest in historical fiction like the members upon this site. But anyway, onward and upward.:)

[Divia]

Yeah Im sure if we had been givenan option a fewpeople would have bought it. I know I would have to keep the site running. Its sad we didnt get a crack at it. But it is what it is and now we have this site, and its all cool.

[Spitfire]

I was just curious what was going on at the old forum, not very much I am afraid. I checked out who was online, and there was a whole bunch of Yahoo Slurp Spiders, MSNBot Spiders and Google Spiders. Does anybody know what or who those are?

[Ariadne]

They're just the feelers automatically sent out by search engines so that new pages on the forum will be indexed and searchable there.

[Rowan]

Well, I've had my membership removed from there, thankfully. I know it wouldn't have hurt anything to remain there, but I am pretty sure they are going to use the existing membership to make it seem like the "new" forum has been around a while when it hasn't. I don't want to be used in that way, but that's just me.

[pat]

Just noticed that Kaliana is a mod there!

[Kailana]

Just noticed that Kaliana is a mod there!


Yeah, as I said in another forum, they did it without asking. I am not sure if I want to stick with it or not yet.

[pat]

Yeah, as I said in another forum, they did it without asking. I am not sure if I want to stick with it or not yet.


LOL That was nice of them then!

See how it goes.

BTW, I thought we discussed other genres aswell as HF... never mind!

[Divia]

we do, but I think they want to place the spotlight on that more and less on HF. Well, thats the feeling I get anyway. Maybe I'm wrong.

[Misfit]

It's kinda dull over there, Kailana seems to be the only one adding anything to it.

[Rowan]

we do, but I think they want to place the spotlight on that more and less on HF. Well, thats the feeling I get anyway. Maybe I'm wrong.

I got that impression, too, yet I don't understand why they would keep the URL of historical fiction if it's about general fiction. And I agree that we do talk about other fiction, but not to a great extent. I'd say the majority of this forum is focused on historical fiction.

[Divia]

agreed! And I like it that we focus on HF. They have so many other places for other genres so I'm glad this place was formed. :) I am going no where.

[Rowan]

Me three!!

[pat]

I agree about the HF! Sorry, I think I worded it wrong! What I meant to say was we do discuss other genres too, we are interested in a lot of genres, but HF is our main topic that brought us all together. How they have intoned their message is that we NEVER discussed anything else, IMHO.

[Volgadon]

Oh, I started a new post on the old site before I realised what happened.

[Divia]

Its OK, I dont think anyone will tar and feather you. ;) If people want to go back I dont think peolple here will get their knickers in a knot. Its all personal choice, ya know

[EC2]

Oh, I started a new post on the old site before I realised what happened.

Traitor!:D:D:D
LOL as Divia says, no one's going to tar and feather you!

[Volgadon]

Ahhh, you're no fun anymore.......

[diamondlil]

Maybe we could tar or feather....just not both!;)

[Leyland]

Ouch! I saw the tar and feather scene in HBO John Adams series, and now have a greater understanding of its painful and humiliating outcomes. So let's not and say we did ..... ;).

[Misfit]

Ouch! I saw the tar and feather scene in HBO John Adams series, and now have a greater understanding of its painful and humiliating outcomes. So let's not and say we did ..... ;).

Let's not do that. I can't remember what book it was but the aftermath of tar and feathering was described in great detail and it's not pretty. Anyone is welcome to post at both boards if they wish, at least for me. It's just a tad bit too boring over there at the moment.

[donroc]

Oh, I started a new post on the old site before I realised what happened.

Welcome here.

[Divia]

Ouch! I saw the tar and feather scene in HBO John Adams series, and now have a greater understanding of its painful and humiliating outcomes. So let's not and say we did ..... ;).

That was the only cool part of the series in my opinion. I found it dull.

[Charliekat]

Hey I found where everyone went finally... :)

Just curious though - why not continue to use the old site?

[Divia]

Eh, why bother? We're all here now. Besides we..or I should say I want a forum that is about HF and not every other genre in the known universe. I like this one because we can talk about what we all love.

Plus this site is now owned by the admins, so that means they can updated it whenever they feel like it and we wont suddenly disappear again.

[EC2]

Hi Charliekat, welcome into the fold!:)

The old site was/is owned by other folks who can make it disappear (as it did) or sell it on at will. This one's more long-term stable because our moderators have set it up and own it. It means that more can be done with it in future without toing and froing and trying to get the owners to listen rather than them slinging a deaf ear.... that's my take on it as a forum member. Don't know if this is right form the mods pov:)

[diamondlil]

Pretty much.

Also, by the time the old forum came back up after being down without any warning, this one was up and running.

Glad you found your way here.

[Misfit]

Hi Charliekat glad you found us. As for me, I'm staying here. Like Divia and EC said the mods now own the board, we're stable and don't have to worry about being sold out. Besides that, there's a whole lot more going on here than there is over there. Major timesuck though :o:p

[Divia]

Yeah no one posts over there anymore. I mean anyone can, but this is where they party is! :cool:

[Carine]

Exactly, it's HF specifically we are interested in, not all genres.

[Charliekat]

Cool! Yeah I thought it was weird that they wanted the old forum to be about all kinds of books. Anyways, I'm glad there's a new HF one now!

[Rowan]

Hi Charliekat glad you found us. As for me, I'm staying here. Like Divia and EC said the mods now own the board, we're stable and don't have to worry about being sold out. Besides that, there's a whole lot more going on here than there is over there. Major timesuck though :o:p

I also firmly believe that were anything to happen in Susan or Marg's lives where they absolutely had to give up their positions as owners, I'm sure they would make arrangements for replacements that wouldn't put us in that same position all over again.

[Volgadon]

The old forum broke down the day before I went on holiday, so I missed out on all the exciting developements.

[Misfit]

I also firmly believe that were anything to happen in Susan or Marg's lives where they absolutely had to give up their positions as owners, I'm sure they would make arrangements for replacements that wouldn't put us in that same position all over again.

That's the thing. They must have known the site would be down and to not have enough kindness in their hearts to email DL and BB so they could post something on their blogs for us poor lost souls. And then to turn around and ban a few people was just a bit too much. Bad customer relations, and without posters what good is a board anyway? It's like the Twighlight zone over there, very very quiet.

[boswellbaxter]

That's the thing. They must have known the site would be down and to not have enough kindness in their hearts to email DL and BB so they could post something on their blogs for us poor lost souls. And then to turn around and ban a few people was just a bit too much. Bad customer relations, and without posters what good is a board anyway? It's like the Twighlight zone over there, very very quiet.

We'd let you know if we couldn't continue the site, never fear.

(I like being called BB, by the way. It's the nickname I'd probably use if I ever developed a taste for Miller Lite and cigarettes.) :)

[Misfit]

We'd let you know if we couldn't continue the site, never fear.

(I like being called BB, by the way. It's the nickname I'd probably use if I ever developed a taste for Miller Lite and cigarettes.) :)


All right then we'll keep it up, just skip the cigarettes. Not good for you :)

[Margaret]

It's my understanding that our moderators here were doing all the moderating work at the old forum, but when they repeatedly asked to have the lamentably out-of-date home page updated, they could get no response. Then, with no warning to the moderators or anyone, the old site simply disappeared. It was gone for a couple of weeks, if I recall correctly. I am confident that at our current site here, our moderator/owners would not do that to us without any warning, because they always acted responsibly in the past when they were moderators at the old forum. It's just that now they don't have another party in control who prevents them from taking responsibility.

Cheers, and a big thank-you to DiamondLil and BB!

[MLE]

One of the things that has been troubling me lately. When the old forum disappeared, all I could think of was the man-hours of resources on all aspects of HF, gone down the drain. And of course, I missed the online friendships and chat. The latter is back and then some, as a result of everybody starting this new place and re-stocking it with new posts and salvaged reviews. But I was glad to see the old one come back online, because the resource was no longer completely lost.

If nobody posts on the old forum, eventually it will go away. And all those man-hours with it. Here's my question: do we want that to happen?

And yet, if the forum languishes it will lose all value to the owners, and since they weren't motivated to pay the upkeep when it was hopping, why should they bother now?

[Divia]

I think we've pulled a lot of stuff from the old site and brought it here. Not everything of course, and I"m going to be searching for some old posts tonight and put them here.

Maybe the site will become something else. maybe it will be a fiction site. Or maybe it will die. I pesronally dont see the issue with it cause we ar eall here and we'er always posting so we will post new ideas n stuff.